From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: "MIT/GNU/Linux" Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 13:45:59 +1100 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <87odpjjwgo.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <87odpmlnze.fsf@kobe.laptop> <87ejqikz0d.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <87ac15lh5f.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <871wmglrjv.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> <878xgot6ly.fsf@kobe.laptop> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167622828 3589 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2007 03:40:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 03:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 01 04:40:28 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H1E2D-0003kI-AG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2007 04:40:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H1E2C-000356-Nz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 22:40:24 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!sn-xt-sjc-02!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.92 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ebu4n/G5WSLFvDxtQXVPCmMXyRY= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 32 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:144466 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:40069 Archived-At: Giorgos Keramidas writes: > On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:36:52 +1100, Tim X wrote: >> The CS department at the University I worked at in '94 was already >> starting to make a bit of a 'big deal' about the fact they were moving >> to open source then and even started using the term in their publicity >> in '94/95. All PCs in the CS labs were running slackware at that time >> (but to be honest, a fair part of this was because MS Win 31 and DOS >> were just crippled pretend OSs at that time and even early, limited >> and buggy GNU Linux was better). > > Heheheh! I know the feeling :) > The really sad thing is that the department, due to mainly economic pressure, has moved from core comp. sci. courses to more of what I would call IT courses. All the academics are now windows users and from talking with the sys admin who is still there, instead of getting really interesting questions or projects, such as setting up a beowulf cluster or helping to improve new signal processing algorithms or hardware designs etc, the questions/problems are now basic end-user support problems, like how do I configure outlook or why won't my anti-virus software run etc. Where once upon a time there was a number of what would be called emacs "power users" who would often be swapping bits of elisp and writing custom elisp packages to use in the department, its now just office documents, abstract misguided ramblings about DRM, ebusiness and enterprise management! Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au