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From: Volkan YAZICI <yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Subject: Re: [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail]
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:20:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87odm6xt0v.fsf@ttnet.net.tr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ejn2jsnu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Mon\, 02 Apr 2007 18\:52\:21 -0400")

Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:
> Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:
>> Does the attached change fix the problem?
>>
>> ! 		(let ((name (mapcar (lambda (s)
>> ! 				      (setq s (downcase s))
>> ! 				      ;; If `I' is downcased to dotless-i,
>> ! 				      ;; convert it to `i'.
>> ! 				      (if (/= (downcase ?I) ?i)
>> ! 					  (subst-char-in-string
>> ! 					   (downcase ?I) ?i s t))
>> ! 				      (intern s))
>
> I wonder if there's a better way to do this.

Indeed, here's my reply to Kenichi Handa (in case it didn't reach to
you):

  Such a fix is quite unfeasible. What do you think to do for other
  problematic characters as well? Introduce a new if-else clause for
  every one?

  I am not faimilar with introducing a new macro policy of emacs team
  but it'd probably be useful (handy?) to have something similar to
  this macro:

  (with-locale-ctype 'ascii
   ;; Any call to DOWNCASE/UPCASE within this (dynamic?) scope will
   ;; use the case conversion table specified in the first argument
   ;; of the WITH-CASE-TABLE macro.
   ...)

> Maybe we can define an ascii case table that doesn't get overwritten
> by the locale; then code like the above can bind to this case table
> temporarily (or we can define a downcase-ascii function that does
> such a thing).

I really wonder if is there really no possible way to switch between
case conversion tables of different locales properly. At least, can't
we totally switch to ASCII locale temporarily?

> But maybe, for Emacs 22, the above hack is all we need. Is it true
> that in practice, all we have to worry about is "i"?

Yes. But I can only answer for Turkish characters. Somebody needs to
look through whole locales. ;-) (BTW, did I mention that I suspect
similar cases in other places as well, like gnus?)


Regards.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-02 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-31 20:43 [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail] Richard Stallman
2007-04-01 17:39 ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-02  6:51 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-02 22:52   ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-02 23:20     ` Volkan YAZICI [this message]
2007-04-03  1:24     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-03 21:40     ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-02 17:31 ` Volkan YAZICI
2007-04-03  8:06   ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-03  8:28     ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-03  9:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03  9:33       ` Simon Josefsson
2007-04-03 13:44         ` Volkan YAZICI
2007-04-03 15:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03 15:50             ` David Kastrup
2007-04-03 16:03               ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found]               ` <87k5wt5tnx.fsf@ttnet.net.tr>
2007-04-03 16:21                 ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                 ` <87slbhquuw.fsf@ttnet.net.tr>
2007-04-03 18:44                   ` David Kastrup
2007-04-03 16:30             ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-03 17:57               ` with-case-table / ascii-case-table (was: [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail]) Reiner Steib
2007-04-04 15:40                 ` with-case-table / ascii-case-table Chong Yidong
2007-04-04 14:02               ` [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail] Richard Stallman
2007-04-04 14:27                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-04-05 23:11                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-06  6:15                     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-06  6:49                       ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06  7:15                         ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-06  7:30                           ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06  8:56                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-06  9:24                             ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06 13:54                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-07  8:01                                 ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06 19:47                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-07  7:30                         ` martin rudalics
2007-04-07 17:31                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-04 18:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-05 23:11                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-06  8:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-06 19:47                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-07  9:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-07 15:03                           ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-07 17:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-07 17:31                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-07 17:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03 21:16           ` Davis Herring

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