From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic James Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A wish, a plea Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:17:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87odj9ruby.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <467AC9AC.7060604@gmail.com> <878xacmyfg.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182453561 5032 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2007 19:19:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Hacksaw , "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 21 21:19:20 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I1SBc-0002Cz-0G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:19:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1SBb-0004mQ-8e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:19:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1SAJ-0004Fl-Ao for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:17:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1SAI-0004EX-GN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:17:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1SAI-0004E2-6b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:17:58 -0400 Original-Received: from owls-tree.tapsellferrier.co.uk ([81.187.188.218] helo=owls-house.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1SAH-0004iA-K1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:17:57 -0400 Original-Received: from nicferrier.tapsellferrier.co.uk ([172.31.50.1] helo=localhost) by owls-house.tapsellferrier.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.60 #1 (Debian)) id 1I1S5a-0007Lu-1J; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:13:06 +0100 Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 626B8C06F1; Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:17:05 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <878xacmyfg.fsf@red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Thu\, 21 Jun 2007 20\:59\:47 -0700") X-detected-kernel: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73551 Archived-At: Karl Fogel writes: > Emacs gives the user total control, but that does not diminish the > importance of choosing reasonable defaults. The current *scratch* > buffer is a punitive default; Hacksaw is suggesting that we choose > another default. I agree. I don't use it as a default. I really do use *scratch* for all sorts of things. But it shouldn't be the default. Maybe a ~/notes or ~/.emacs.d/notes ? -- Nic Ferrier http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk