From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: michael@cadilhac.name (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl?= Cadilhac) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How are Windows users supposed to print the PostScript refcards? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:76412 Archived-At: --===============2053770505== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --==-=-= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reiner Steib writes: > I think adding *.pdf is fine (only ~ 1 MB) for a real benefit of many > users. This is one point we all agree on, so let's do it. > I didn't suggest to remove the PS versions, because on typical > GNU/Linux systems, the PDF would be converted to PS during the > printing process (e.g. with CUPS filters) so I'd rather keep the PS > files. If size disk space is important, we may gzip the PS files like > we do for *.el. Older Unix or GNU/Linux systems might not even be > able to print PDF while they can handle PS fine. I do agree. And I think there's no point saying on the one side ``Hey, buddy, you can use Emacs on your good'ol MO-5 and your toaster=A0!'' and on the other side ``What=A0? You don't have a PDF viewer or converter=A0? Go die=A0!''. I'd go for a patch like the following=A0: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline; filename=Makefile.patch Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: Makefile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/etc/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -c -r1.13 Makefile *** Makefile 26 Jul 2007 05:26:03 -0000 1.13 =2D-- Makefile 13 Aug 2007 00:33:12 -0000 *************** *** 27,44 **** all: refcards dired-refcards misc-refcards =20=20 =20=20 ! refcards: refcard.ps cs-refcard.ps de-refcard.ps fr-refcard.ps \ pl-refcard.ps pt-br-refcard.ps ru-refcard.ps sk-refcard.ps =20=20 ! dired-refcards: dired-ref.ps cs-dired-ref.ps fr-drdref.ps sk-dired-ref.ps =20=20 ## No PS files: vipcard.tex viperCard.tex survival.tex sk-survival.tex ! misc-refcards: calccard.ps gnus-booklet.ps gnus-refcard.ps orgcard.ps =20=20 ## Following PS files are not included with Emacs. ! survival-cards: survival.ps cs-survival.ps sk-survival.ps =20=20 ! viper-cards: vipcard.ps viperCard.ps =20=20 =20=20 ## dvi files. =2D-- 27,49 ---- all: refcards dired-refcards misc-refcards =20=20 =20=20 ! REFCARDS =3D refcard.ps cs-refcard.ps de-refcard.ps fr-refcard.ps \ pl-refcard.ps pt-br-refcard.ps ru-refcard.ps sk-refcard.ps + refcards: ${REFCARDS} ${REFCARDS:.ps=3D.pdf} =20=20 ! DIRED-REFCARDS =3D dired-ref.ps cs-dired-ref.ps fr-drdref.ps sk-dired-ref= .ps ! dired-refcards: ${DIRED-REFCARDS} ${DIRED-REFCARDS:.ps=3D.pdf} =20=20 ## No PS files: vipcard.tex viperCard.tex survival.tex sk-survival.tex ! MISC-REFCARDS =3D calccard.ps gnus-booklet.ps gnus-refcard.ps orgcard.ps ! misc-refcards: ${MISC-REFCARDS} ${MISC-REFCARDS:.ps=3D.pdf} =20=20 ## Following PS files are not included with Emacs. ! SURVIVAL-CARDS =3D survival.ps cs-survival.ps sk-survival.ps ! survival-cards: ${SURVIVAL-CARDS} ${SURVIVAL-CARDS:.ps=3D.pdf} =20=20 ! VIPER-CARDS =3D vipcard.ps viperCard.ps ! viper-cards: ${VIPER-CARDS} ${VIPER-CARDS:.ps=3D.pdf} =20=20 =20=20 ## dvi files. *************** *** 93,98 **** =2D-- 98,112 ---- dvips -t letter $< -o $@ =20=20 =20=20 + ## PDF files. +=20 + ## dvipdf uses dvips to create the PDF file, so use directly + ## GhostScript's ps2pdf. +=20 + ${REFCARDS:.ps=3D.pdf} ${DIRED-REFCARDS:.ps=3D.pdf} ${MISC-REFCARDS:.ps= =3D.pdf} \ + ${SURVIVAL-CARDS:.ps=3D.pdf} ${VIPER-CARDS:.ps=3D.pdf}: %.pdf: %.ps + ps2pdf $< $@ +=20 .PHONY: mostlyclean clean distclean maintainer-clean unlock relock =20=20 mostlyclean: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So=A0? > There's no reason to convert ps-prin0.ps and ps-prin1.ps to PDF. They weren't in the count, sorry I didn't mention it. =2D-=20 | Micha=EBl `Micha' Cadilhac | One user is enough. = | | http://michael.cadilhac.name | People suck. = | | JID/MSN: | = | `---- michael.cadilhac@gmail.com | -- Tuomo Valkonen - = --' --=-=-=-- --==-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGv6ejUJhDmOfFA3URAv7UAKCbpPXSFKK8ycmximwGexFusqFgWACgjuPo CjzADOd+NcyoZu6ZaVh5NqI= =5zjn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==-=-=-- --===============2053770505== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel --===============2053770505==--