From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: region-active-p Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:57:59 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87odcxpmy9.fsf@jurta.org> References: <200710191149.59775.andreas.roehler@online.de> <200712110915.41130.andreas.roehler@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197368184 6932 80.91.229.12 (11 Dec 2007 10:16:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, Reiner Steib , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Stephen Turnbull , Miles Bader To: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 11 11:16:34 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J22AC-0000z7-QK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:16:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J229u-0001VX-IV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:16:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J224n-0004pJ-VK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:10:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J224k-0004j3-8y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:10:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J224k-0004ig-1q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:10:54 -0500 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J224Z-0001X4-4c; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:10:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1J224Q-0003dt-HW; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:10:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200712110915.41130.andreas.roehler@online.de> ("Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler=22's?= message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:15:39 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 7b1a4900bea4ee3727a65c989d5962bc X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1866 [Dec 10 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 19 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85035 Archived-At: >> I came up with a better solution to the question of what region-active-p >> should do when the region is empty: make it a user option. >> I think that will make people happy, because I expect most users will >> have the same preference for all the commands. >> >> I will install it when I have a good connection. > > That certainly wouldn't be wrong on the logical level, > however can't help in original case, reduces > compatibilty rather than enhances them. > > My idea was to make the writing of compatible code a > little bit easier, to get rid of one of these (featurep > 'xemacs) forms occasionally. > > If you could ask Juri to install his answer we will all > live in a better world. :) I proposed: (defun region-active-p () (and transient-mark-mode mark-active (not (eq (region-beginning) (region-end))))) And as I understand, Richard wants: (defun region-active-p () (and transient-mark-mode mark-active (if some-new-user-option (not (eq (region-beginning) (region-end)))))) This seems like a good solution. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/