Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Davin Pearson]

I tried the following settings but neither worked (note that the
second one refers to
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/contrib/ftp-for-win32.zip

(setq ange-ftp-ftp-program-name "c:/WINDOWS/system32/ftp.exe")
(setq ange-ftp-ftp-program-name "d:/home/ftp.exe")

When I try to load the following program into Emacs

/davin@ftphost.ripway.com:index.php

it opens with an empty file yet the file index.php is known by me to
be not empty.  Click in the following link to verify that the file is
not empty:

http://h1.ripway.com/davin/index.php

What am I doing wrong here?  I have been using Emacs for 10 years now
and I have written over 17,000 lines of Elisp code, including one file
(trashcan.el) that I have submitted to the official Emacs Lisp List at
Cambridge University.

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Michael Albinus]

Davin Pearson <davin.pearson@gmail.com> writes:

> I tried the following settings but neither worked

Which Emacs version are you using? Note, that with Emacs 22 there is the
Tramp package, which needs some settings for keeping ange-ftp as default.

Best regards, Michael.

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[daniel]

> I tried the following settings but neither worked (note that the
> second one refers to
> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/contrib/ftp-for-win32.zip
> 
> (setq ange-ftp-ftp-program-name "c:/WINDOWS/system32/ftp.exe")
> (setq ange-ftp-ftp-program-name "d:/home/ftp.exe")
> 
> When I try to load the following program into Emacs
> 
> /davin@ftphost.ripway.com:index.php
> 

Davin,

Sounds like index.php is not at the top level of the 'davin' directory. It's more likely in /home/users/davin/public_html/index.php and you're trying to get it at /home/users/davin/index.php.

gr

daniël


> it opens with an empty file yet the file index.php is known by me to
> be not empty.  Click in the following link to verify that the file is
> not empty:
> 
> http://h1.ripway.com/davin/index.php
> 
> What am I doing wrong here?  I have been using Emacs for 10 years now
> and I have written over 17,000 lines of Elisp code, including one file
> (trashcan.el) that I have submitted to the official Emacs Lisp List at
> Cambridge University.

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Davin Pearson]

On May 24, 8:06 pm, daniel <dan...@ackack.eu> wrote:
> Sounds like index.php is not at the top level of the 'davin' directory. It's more likely in
/home/users/davin/public_html/index.php and you're trying to get it
at /home/users/davin/index.php.

I tried C-x C-f on the following files but neither work:

/davin@ftphost.ripway.com:index.php
/davin@ftphost.ripway.com:public_html/index.php

Here is the sequence of commands for uploading index.php:

ftp ftphost.ripway.com
User: <enter davin and press enter>
Password: <enter password and press enter>
ftp> <enter put index.php and press enter>
ftp> <enter dir and press enter>

here is a snippet of the directory

07-08-07  01:35AM                 9941 apple.jpg
07-08-07  01:35AM                  485 apple.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                 8718 banana.jpg
07-08-07  01:35AM                  544 banana.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                 8143 carrot.jpg
07-08-07  01:35AM                 2243 fern.png
07-08-07  01:35AM                  106 hello.html
05-24-08  03:01AM                  629 index.php
06-18-07  01:23AM       <DIR>          inner
07-08-07  01:35AM                  504 inner-1.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                  510 inner-2.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                  512 inner-3.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                  510 inner-4.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                  375 inner.inc
07-08-07  01:35AM                  508 inner.php

ftp> <enter pwd and press enter>
257 "/" is current directory

This hopefully proves that the file index.php is located where I said
it was.

I have looked at the documentation for tramp and it seems to be a
better system than ange-ftp.  Would you recommend me getting the
latest binaries of Emacs so that I can run Tramp out of the box?

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Michael Albinus]

Davin Pearson <davin.pearson@gmail.com> writes:

> On May 24, 8:06 pm, daniel <dan...@ackack.eu> wrote:
>> Sounds like index.php is not at the top level of the 'davin' directory. It's more likely in
> /home/users/davin/public_html/index.php and you're trying to get it
> at /home/users/davin/index.php.
>
> I tried C-x C-f on the following files but neither work:
>
> /davin@ftphost.ripway.com:index.php
> /davin@ftphost.ripway.com:public_html/index.php

Could you, please, show the contents of the buffer
*davin@ftphost.ripway.com*? It traces the underlying FTP sesion.

> I have looked at the documentation for tramp and it seems to be a
> better system than ange-ftp.  Would you recommend me getting the
> latest binaries of Emacs so that I can run Tramp out of the box?

If you want to connect via another method but ftp, it is the way to go.
You can also install Tramp 2.1.13, it is compatible with GNU Emacs 21.3.

Best regards, Michael.

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Davin Pearson]

2008/5/25 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>:
> Davin Pearson <davin.pearson@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On May 24, 8:06 pm, daniel <dan...@ackack.eu> wrote:
>>> Sounds like index.php is not at the top level of the 'davin' directory. It's more likely in
>> /home/users/davin/public_html/index.php and you're trying to get it
>> at /home/users/davin/index.php.
>>
>> I tried C-x C-f on the following files but neither work:
>>
>> /davin@ftphost.ripway.com:index.php
>> /davin@ftphost.ripway.com:public_html/index.php
>
> Could you, please, show the contents of the buffer
> *davin@ftphost.ripway.com*? It traces the underlying FTP sesion.

Here is the contents of the buffer *ftp davin@ftphost.ripway.com*

Invalid help command foo.
open ftphost.ripway.com
Connected to ftphost.ripway.com.
220 server [Ripside Interactive, LLC. Copyright 2003] ready.
user "davin" Turtle Power!
331 Password
230 User davin logged in.  You have used 10465 KB out of 30720KB.
hash
Hash mark printing On  ftp: (2048 bytes/hash mark) .
pwd
257 "/" is current directory
ls "-al /." c:/DOCUME~1/DAVINP~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/ange-ftp2012oVS
200 PORT command successful
150 ASCII data

226 transfer complete.
ftp: 396 bytes received in 0.22Seconds 1.81Kbytes/sec.
ls "-al /." c:/DOCUME~1/DAVINP~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/ange-ftp2012_CH
200 PORT command successful
150 ASCII data

226 transfer complete.
ftp: 396 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 396000.00Kbytes/sec.

So why is my buffer index.php empty?  Note that it is not entirely
empty, as the buffer size is 122 bytes.  Thank you in advance,

-- 
Sincerely and kindest regards, Davin.
Davin Pearson http://www.davinpearson.com

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Michael Albinus]

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"Davin Pearson" <davin.pearson@gmail.com> writes:

> Here is the contents of the buffer *ftp davin@ftphost.ripway.com*
>
> Invalid help command foo.
> open ftphost.ripway.com
> Connected to ftphost.ripway.com.
> 220 server [Ripside Interactive, LLC. Copyright 2003] ready.
> user "davin" Turtle Power!
> 331 Password
> 230 User davin logged in.  You have used 10465 KB out of 30720KB.
> hash
> Hash mark printing On  ftp: (2048 bytes/hash mark) .
> pwd
> 257 "/" is current directory
> ls "-al /." c:/DOCUME~1/DAVINP~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/ange-ftp2012oVS
> 200 PORT command successful
> 150 ASCII data
>
> 226 transfer complete.
> ftp: 396 bytes received in 0.22Seconds 1.81Kbytes/sec.
> ls "-al /." c:/DOCUME~1/DAVINP~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/ange-ftp2012_CH
> 200 PORT command successful
> 150 ASCII data
>
> 226 transfer complete.
> ftp: 396 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 396000.00Kbytes/sec.

Hmm. Just the directory listing has been transferred; there is no
attempt to receive your file. For comparision, I've used Emacs 21.4 (on
Ubuntu 8.04) for accessing the file "/anonymous@ftp.gnu.org:README". See
the attached enclosure for the dialogue.

My suspicion is that there is a problem in reading the directory
listing. Could you, please, check, whether you can open
"/anonymous@ftp.gnu.org:README"?

Best regards, Michael.


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ftp> open ftp.gnu.org
Connected to ftp.gnu.org.
220 GNU FTP server ready.
user "anonymous" Turtle Power!
ftp> 230-Due to U.S. Export Regulations, all cryptographic software on this
230-site is subject to the following legal notice:
230-
230-    This site includes publicly available encryption source code
230-    which, together with object code resulting from the compiling of
230-    publicly available source code, may be exported from the United
230-    States under License Exception "TSU" pursuant to 15 C.F.R. Section
230-    740.13(e).
230-
230-This legal notice applies to cryptographic software only. Please see
230-the Bureau of Industry and Security (www.bxa.doc.gov) for more
230-information about current U.S. regulations.
230 Login successful.
hash
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/hash mark).
pwd
ftp> 257 "/"
ftp> ls "-al /." /tmp/ange-ftp3614anS
200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
150 Here comes the directory listing.
226 Directory send OK.
ftp> quote mdtm /README
213 20070220164724
quote mdtm /README
ftp> 213 20070220164724
ftp> quote mdtm /README
213 20070220164724
quote mdtm /README
ftp> 213 20070220164724
ftp> type binary
200 Switching to Binary mode.
ftp> get /README /tmp/ange-ftp3614xUH
200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for /README (1765 bytes).

226 File send OK.
1765 bytes received in 0.16 secs (10.9 kB/s)
ftp> type ascii
200 Switching to ASCII mode.
ftp> quote mdtm /README
213 20070220164724
quote mdtm /README
ftp> 213 20070220164724
ftp> quote mdtm /README
213 20070220164724
quote mdtm /README
ftp> 213 20070220164724
ftp> 

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Davin Pearson]

2008/5/25 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>:
> My suspicion is that there is a problem in reading the directory
> listing. Could you, please, check, whether you can open
> "/anonymous@ftp.gnu.org:README"?

It seems to load README successfully with both of the following settings:

(setq ange-ftp-ftp-program-name "c:/WINDOWS/system32/ftp.exe")
(setq ange-ftp-ftp-program-name "d:/home/ftp.exe")

thanks,

-- 
Sincerely and kindest regards, Davin.
Davin Pearson http://www.davinpearson.com

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Michael Albinus]

"Davin Pearson" <davin.pearson@gmail.com> writes:

>> My suspicion is that there is a problem in reading the directory
>> listing. Could you, please, check, whether you can open
>> "/anonymous@ftp.gnu.org:README"?
>
> It seems to load README successfully with both of the following settings:

OK, then please debug ange-ftp-ls. Look at parsing of directory
contents, which is kept in buffer " *ftp data*".

> thanks,

Best regards, Michael.

Fwd: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Davin Pearson]

2008/5/26 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>:
> OK, then please debug ange-ftp-ls. Look at parsing of directory
> contents, which is kept in buffer " *ftp data*".

Do you mean execute debug-on-error ?  I tried the execute this command
but it made no difference to M-x find-file
/davin@ftphost.ripway.com:index.php

Also, there is no buffer *ftp data*

--
Sincerely and kindest regards, Davin.
Davin Pearson http://www.davinpearson.com



-- 
Sincerely and kindest regards, Davin.
Davin Pearson http://www.davinpearson.com

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Michael Albinus]

"Davin Pearson" <davin.pearson@gmail.com> writes:

>> OK, then please debug ange-ftp-ls. Look at parsing of directory
>> contents, which is kept in buffer " *ftp data*".
>
> Do you mean execute debug-on-error ?  I tried the execute this command
> but it made no difference to M-x find-file
> /davin@ftphost.ripway.com:index.php

No, I meant edebug-defun.

> Also, there is no buffer *ftp data*

That's why I wrote " *ftp data*" - the leading space matters. Please
show the contents of this buffer after you've tried to open index.php;
the buffer shall contain the directory listing of the remote
directory.

Best regards, Michael.

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Davin Pearson]

2008/5/27 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>:
> That's why I wrote " *ftp data*" - the leading space matters. Please
> show the contents of this buffer after you've tried to open index.php;
> the buffer shall contain the directory listing of the remote
> directory.

It is cool how buffers whose name starts with a space do not show up
in any of the buffers menus.  Is that the case?

Here is the contents of " *ftp data".   I hope this helps...

apple.jpg
apple.php
banana.jpg
banana.php
carrot.jpg
fern.png
hello.html
index.php
inner
inner-1.php
inner-2.php
inner-3.php
inner-4.php
inner.inc
inner.php
Makefile
R4-Version-1.0-Setup.exe
R4-Version-1.1-Setup.exe
R4-Version-1.2-Setup.exe
R4-Version-1.3-Setup.exe
root-bot.inc
root-top-1.inc
root-top-2.inc
rw_folder_cache.csv
sex.php
test.php
tutorial-8
tutorial-9

Note that I have bound C-f to d-find-file (d stands for Davin's Lisp),
which internally calls find-file.  Therefore it should be sufficient
to call M-x find-file to get the correct result.

-- 
Sincerely and kindest regards, Davin.
Davin Pearson http://www.davinpearson.com

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Davin Pearson]

008/5/27 Davin Pearson <davin.pearson@gmail.com>:
> 2008/5/27 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>:
>> That's why I wrote " *ftp data*" - the leading space matters. Please
>> show the contents of this buffer after you've tried to open index.php;
>> the buffer shall contain the directory listing of the remote
>> directory.

Here is the contents of " *ftp data" using the different FTP client
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/contrib/ftp-for-win32.zip

07-08-07  01:35AM                 9941 apple.jpg
07-08-07  01:35AM                  485 apple.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                 8718 banana.jpg
07-08-07  01:35AM                  544 banana.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                 8143 carrot.jpg
07-08-07  01:35AM                 2243 fern.png
07-08-07  01:35AM                  106 hello.html
05-24-08  03:01AM                  629 index.php
06-18-07  01:23AM       <DIR>          inner
07-08-07  01:35AM                  504 inner-1.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                  510 inner-2.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                  512 inner-3.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                  510 inner-4.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                  375 inner.inc
07-08-07  01:35AM                  508 inner.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                  181 Makefile
02-24-08  09:29PM              2633163 R4-Version-1.0-Setup.exe
04-04-08  09:59PM              2663201 R4-Version-1.1-Setup.exe
04-17-08  09:32PM              2666975 R4-Version-1.2-Setup.exe
04-17-08  11:23PM              2667507 R4-Version-1.3-Setup.exe
02-24-08  00:05AM                  603 root-bot.inc
05-24-08  00:36AM                 2545 root-top-1.inc
07-08-07  01:35AM                  238 root-top-2.inc
07-26-07  03:57AM                  131 rw_folder_cache.csv
02-18-08  07:41PM                  152 sex.php
07-08-07  01:35AM                 2131 test.php
09-03-07  00:14AM       <DIR>          tutorial-8
07-13-07  03:20AM       <DIR>          tutorial-9

-- 
Sincerely and kindest regards, Davin.
Davin Pearson http://www.davinpearson.com

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Michael Albinus]

"Davin Pearson" <davin.pearson@gmail.com> writes:

> Here is the contents of " *ftp data" using the different FTP client
> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/contrib/ftp-for-win32.zip

Looks like both types of directory listings cannot be parsed by
`ange-ftp-parse-dired-listing'. This is due to the output format of
your FTP server [Ripside Interactive, LLC. Copyright 2003].

ange-ftp got some improvements in Emacs 22. Maybe it is capable to
speak with your server, I don't know. At least it might be worth a try.

Best regards, Michael.

Re: Trouble getting ange-ftp to work

[Davin Pearson]

2008/5/28 Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>:
> Looks like both types of directory listings cannot be parsed by
> `ange-ftp-parse-dired-listing'. This is due to the output format of
> your FTP server [Ripside Interactive, LLC. Copyright 2003].

Thanks for your valuable help

> ange-ftp got some improvements in Emacs 22. Maybe it is capable to
> speak with your server, I don't know. At least it might be worth a try.

I will give it a try when I get time.


-- 
Sincerely and kindest regards, Davin.
Davin Pearson http://www.davinpearson.com