From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:32:26 +1000 Organization: Rapt Technologies Message-ID: <87od4nzcmd.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <4884DC7F.6060406@gmail.com> <819feff4-76e3-4bf8-9ece-7b47f099efc2@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <87mykaw8sb.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216903423 3926 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 12:43:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:43:43 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 14:44:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KM0B6-0001h1-Ff for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:44:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42506 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM0AC-0001Sr-V8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:43:20 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!news.astraweb.com!border2.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2YS44X05bn+vxTSa6Kd7Ia8tU4Y= Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 65e9c5e9.news.astraweb.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=Q@@eEfXTKLO?9YCQO^`6:EL?0kYOcDh@JIGb]mONgOiJ^D8U\dF3`\DRTFYYW29Y\JA9_; hkoXkYB Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:160552 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:55899 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > "Juanma Barranquero" writes: >> Well, although I wouldn't support changing the Emacs keybindings >> wholesale in a million years, Xah Lee has a point about them not being >> particularly good. Do you really think that C-x C-c is good and Alt-F4 >> is bad? > > "C-x" in general is a prefix for "major" commands, and "C-c" was > historically used to kill a program (you could question the significance > of "C-c" itself, but it was used so universally, its meaning was quite > firmly established). > > Thus "C-x C-c" is a fairly logical binding, if you ask me. > > [If you ask xahlee of course, he'll rant at you for a month about > timecubes.] > > Now, the logic behind "Alt-F4" is, ... what, exactly? > Exactly and in fact, more effort and less convenient to move your hands of the "home keys" to get to F4. Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au