From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul R Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs should have a good web-browser Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:59:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87ocrjl2r6.fsf@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247846375 2774 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2009 15:59:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ferkiwi+a@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 17 17:59:28 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MRpqJ-0004lU-3d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:59:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57546 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRpqI-0007qc-MS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:59:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRpqD-0007qL-BN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:59:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRpq8-0007pt-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:59:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53896 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRpq8-0007pq-H2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:59:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f217.google.com ([209.85.219.217]:46884) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MRpq7-0007Hd-MG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:59:15 -0400 Original-Received: by ewy17 with SMTP id 17so908904ewy.42 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:59:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=LrcNWacvl331Fh4zgAHSrv1THN46OhWVJJQpaD/8QVQ=; b=i0/Eg/CT4pbh+pvNzK2WMGK19jTP27q6uGJ11WhtNtWH/rAu84+3b1nDW73EZz4vTu Q3x/DA/JFLdWYRp44y9oSJeL/jxY2iUM2fSxhWLb5/33lEYiOtvYO5Bunw138ijBz5mO LsaSlL4tLajhIcfEDofI50udcqnNr9Shj62/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=GDLxB+GAzNPLZykBzNNv2Ma7EfTszR/G8WL/Xj9sN/JNxSwNZT6RApLAAMzX7NyhVM sPRMMQ7JaGnpYTZoeKXzeNSCZuX4nwFsNxyZAvvzHJTS9B71QhpzAUvZxQKu9DrDryKl Yrsa2hsJqhPGOv1mz/ZGSo7L5C9xk3w/5a22g= Original-Received: by 10.210.118.14 with SMTP id q14mr1518724ebc.74.1247846353869; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ubuT42 (vil35-2-82-227-204-220.fbx.proxad.net [82.227.204.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm3595361eyz.51.2009.07.17.08.59.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:59:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:24:49 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112621 Archived-At: Stefan> Maybe the most promising direction I can see is to try and make Stefan> some library (like webkit) render directly into an Emacs buffer Stefan> (rather than X11/Cairo/w32/plaintext/younameit). Still, to make Stefan> it handle tables properly, we may need to extend Emacs's Stefan> rendering engine to better support them How about doing that the other way, that is rendering emacs buffers in webkit (or an other xhtml/css+js lib), making it the default rendering backend for emacs in graphic mode. It would probably cut off some large amount of emacs plateform-specific code and make web integration tight. -- Paul