From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: tromey@redhat.com, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>,
Phil Hagelberg <phil@hagelb.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Integrating package.el
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:41:03 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ocj3v0rk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvhbowc58w.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
Stefan Monnier writes:
> > Warning: I'm not really sure what the problems are[1], but the user
> > install vs. system install distinction has never really worked right
> > in XEmacs's package system.
>
> It would help if you could describe the problems encountered,
At my consulting rates, that would be worth about $500. ;-) As I said,
it's not clear what is design and what is PEBKAC, and clarifying that
would require a lot of effort. We've just had a lot of user
complaints over the years related to specified and/or default
installation locations, permissions issues, etc. Packages get
installed in places the running XEmacs isn't looking for them,
insufficient privilege to install in the default place, that kind of
thing. This often seems to be related to system vs. user issues.
At this point I just want to offer the advice that Here Be Dragons (or
at least some cute little lizards) to watch out for.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-05 4:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-26 2:55 Autoload from a web page? Lennart Borgman
2009-12-27 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-27 3:24 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-28 18:48 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-28 18:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29 1:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-29 1:39 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29 2:45 ` joakim
2009-12-29 2:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-29 4:52 ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-29 22:25 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-30 6:13 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-30 18:06 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2009-12-30 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 19:10 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-01 0:40 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-01 19:27 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-01 19:26 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-04 18:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 15:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 18:46 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 21:14 ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo (was: Autoload from a web page?) Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 21:21 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-12-29 21:38 ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-29 21:36 ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-30 16:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-31 5:32 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-01 19:18 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-03 5:38 ` Integrating package.el (was Re: unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo) Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-04 17:55 ` Integrating package.el Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-04 19:51 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-05 5:02 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 5:37 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-05 15:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 16:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 16:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 20:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 23:50 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-06 20:45 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-06 21:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-09 5:40 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-09 14:32 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-09 17:47 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 10:41 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-10 11:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-10 14:04 ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-10 16:00 ` joakim
2010-01-10 20:43 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 20:07 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-10 21:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-10 23:02 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-11 3:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-14 3:12 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-19 11:40 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-19 17:17 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-02-22 19:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-22 20:36 ` joakim
2010-02-23 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-24 21:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-25 20:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 14:59 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 16:32 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 17:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 20:59 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-02 17:39 ` Richard Stallman
2010-03-02 18:46 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-02 13:34 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:37 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 22:18 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-03-01 22:30 ` Štěpán Němec
2010-03-01 23:00 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-02 13:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-03 20:13 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-04 5:42 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-02 19:03 ` Davis Herring
2010-02-25 22:56 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-03-04 5:39 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-04 7:29 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-04 18:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-05 4:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2010-03-04 13:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-04 18:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-04 18:33 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-07 22:58 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-04 20:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-07 23:16 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-03-08 3:17 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-08 14:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-08 17:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-08 17:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-04 18:30 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-05 0:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-01 14:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 16:26 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-01 17:28 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 18:06 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-01 21:22 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-03-03 20:15 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-03 20:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-03 22:21 ` Tom Tromey
2010-03-02 13:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-01 21:09 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-11 3:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-12 20:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-12 21:37 ` Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 15:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 16:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 17:51 ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) (was: Integrating package.el) Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 19:43 ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 22:28 ` Gnus encouragement of GMail (was: Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus)) Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 17:27 ` Installation, activation and setup of packages (e.g. Gnus) (was: Integrating package.el) Reiner Steib
2010-01-05 18:03 ` Integrating package.el Phil Hagelberg
2010-01-05 18:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 19:14 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-05 20:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-01-05 23:19 ` Tom Tromey
2010-01-06 15:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-30 17:16 ` unsupported packages area in the Emacs repo Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-01 19:21 ` Tom Tromey
2009-12-29 5:22 ` Autoload from a web page? Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 5:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-02 15:45 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-04 2:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-04 16:23 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-29 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 16:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-12-30 16:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 17:08 ` Lennart Borgman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-10 22:06 Integrating package.el MON KEY
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