From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:15:05 +0800 Message-ID: <87ocil3edy.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <20100317143519.GB4381@muc.de> <87vdcui6oh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20100318101223.GB2704@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268921877 23196 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2010 14:17:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:17:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Dan Nicolaescu , Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 18 15:17:52 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsGXl-0003Ni-P0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:17:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52241 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsGXl-0007hF-1J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:17:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NsGVO-0005X1-9U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:15:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48349 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NsGVM-0005V4-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:15:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsGVH-0002ZA-7v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:15:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f210.google.com ([209.85.220.210]:52490) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsGVH-0002Z0-3G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:15:15 -0400 Original-Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so466354fxm.26 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:15:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VgT8mFPstRApYzpBGc+jRcuZrWylfabQnesM70tmiGA=; b=teZiHGAnHZBeHZzXC67pQkrr4V3XtfBkMM2mJDoSr2N7fhgXvigqPhp2XQ8rg/HNcu JHCudwH6plhvKqkiQjS95UJji4YSAs5ElcsOwS+BASVZNvlzioHeVBxQAVzgGJ6ivlwx 2fuqAXEajkJWusDuZQcnmflUpeEzk4GUF9VbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kwJ7GFKX6Vvn5yueQFrYx4gNgTfxY8HMiNlOgqmg8m3+UIxXd4pxQR7y1/jaozECmp hBfi6PkRNcDmo6ZUXKXDLDdMZJFIODjCiMcjq7EkZ+AiJI4Yh5oHetbslkgTCPZTK6G+ Ljtpbs9xwvt8WfCyj7udGrvEZfV6dqrzLMwMM= Original-Received: by 10.223.60.142 with SMTP id p14mr9934404fah.47.1268921712862; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from home.jasonrumney.net ([202.87.221.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 16sm123fxm.7.2010.03.18.07.15.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by home.jasonrumney.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 08EAAA4B; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:15:05 +0800 (MYT) In-Reply-To: <20100318101223.GB2704@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:12:23 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122161 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: > My view is that we should never make something default in Emacs if > it's likely to provoke the angry reaction "How do I disable this > *!=C2=A3$ing thing?". delete-select-mode falls into this latter category. > So does transient-mark-mode. So do fringes, toolbars, menus, scrollbars, the splash screen, syntax highlighting and almost every other change we've made to Emacs over the years.