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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: Emacs <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Angelo Graziosi <angelo.graziosi@alice.it>
Subject: Re: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 11:06:05 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oci2r4ky.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BB4DBCD.4090807@swipnet.se>

Jan Djärv writes:

 > > I have build that, but when I start Emacs, I don't 'see' any tabs. How
 > > can we enable those? I have a desktop file which opens several file when
 > > I start Emacs, so I would expect to see them in tabs! :-)
 > 
 > I don't think that is a good idea in general.  I have desktopfiles with over 
 > 50 files.  50 tabs isn't manageable.

XEmacs's tabs by default group files by mode (cc-mode, make-mode,
LaTeX-mode), and the tabs list the top N according to "buffer-list".
I *do not* think this is optimal, and wrote a proof-of-concept
"group-by-project" mode.  Nobody uses that, everybody uses the default
mode, and nobody complains (although people typically respond
enthusiastically when somebody suggests alternative uses of the tabs,
that itch has for some reason never been scratched despite
availability of proof-of-concept).

In XEmacs, buffer-list gives a frame-specific grouping, which works
well.

Bottom line: put a limit on the number of tabs, and use the first N in
buffer-list (perhaps filtered by mode).  This is good enough to start
with (Jan himself might opt to turn them off, but I bet most users
will find this mode a usability improvement).

You do need a way to turn off tabs, some people don't like them, some
app-specific frames shouldn't have them.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-02  2:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 287+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-01 16:52 Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-01 17:45 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 18:03   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 20:18     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  7:10       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 20:51   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02  6:49     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  9:21       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02  2:06   ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2010-04-02  7:00     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  6:53 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02  9:59   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-02 15:10     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-02 16:55       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-05  8:50       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 12:44         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 17:34           ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-10 18:03             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 22:09               ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11  5:45                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11  8:16                   ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 10:52                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 17:28                       ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-11 18:33                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-21  8:55                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21  9:46                           ` David Kastrup
2010-04-21 15:43                             ` Juri Linkov
     [not found]                               ` <jwv633k4rn2.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2010-04-22  8:16                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 15:08                                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-23  8:33                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 13:54                           ` Angelo Graziosi
2010-04-21 15:45                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-21 16:04                             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-22  8:14                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22 16:20                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-24 18:45                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 16:53                             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-23 18:02                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-23 18:28                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24  9:17                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 14:41                                     ` Drew Adams
2010-04-24 18:49                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-24 19:24                                         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-25  5:36                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-25  9:15                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-04-25 18:33                                               ` Window configurations (was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch) Juri Linkov
2010-04-26 16:16                                                 ` Window configurations martin rudalics
2010-04-27  8:54                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 12:54                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-04-27 18:03                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 19:47                                                         ` Info buffers in Desktop Juri Linkov
2010-04-28  7:12                                                         ` Window configurations martin rudalics
2010-04-28  8:27                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-27 19:55                                                   ` Davis Herring
2010-04-28  7:12                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-04-28 14:50                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-28  8:35                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-28 14:15                                                       ` Davis Herring
2010-05-07 18:14                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-30  3:19                                                 ` Window configurations (was: Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch) Ken Hori
2010-04-30 20:33                                                   ` Window configurations Stefan Monnier
2010-05-02 20:31                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-02 23:34                                                       ` Drew Adams
2010-05-03  0:50                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-03  0:57                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-03  2:50                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-04 16:09                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05  6:41                                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-05 13:22                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-05 14:35                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-05-05 21:59                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-02 20:28                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-03  3:31                                                     ` Ken Hori
2010-05-04 16:12                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-05  9:19                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-05-05 18:05                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-06  8:21                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 20:47                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-10 19:16                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-11  7:01                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-11 16:45                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-12  9:29                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-05-13 22:46                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-14  6:59                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-05-16 22:51                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-17  9:06                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-17 22:54                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-05-18 12:07                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 17:28                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 18:39                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-31 19:12                                                                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-31 20:23                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-01  9:24                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-05-31 20:19                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-01  3:13                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01  9:25                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 12:58                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01  9:24                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 13:08                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-01 14:02                                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-01 16:04                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:20                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-02 12:59                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 14:08                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-03  8:55                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:54                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-02 13:00                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 19:46                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03  8:55                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 18:55                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-14 17:05                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-14 21:54                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-15  7:08                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-15 21:31                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-16 17:25                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-16 20:51                                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17  7:58                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-17  8:42                                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17 10:20                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-17 20:38                                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-17 22:55                                                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-18  6:34                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-18  8:28                                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-18  9:04                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-19  8:50                                                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-19 13:47                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-19 14:12                                                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-19 18:56                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-01 19:51                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-02 13:00                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-02 19:49                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03  8:57                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 14:22                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-03 15:42                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 13:11                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-04 14:07                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 16:59                                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 10:36                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-06-04 14:06                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-06-03 18:54                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-04  8:11                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 16:57                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-05 19:47                                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-06 13:21                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 18:31                                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-03 18:52                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-04  8:11                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-04 17:09                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 12:49                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-05 19:49                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-05 21:58                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 18:30                                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-06 10:38                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-06-07  1:12                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 13:40                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-07 15:36                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07 17:38                                                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-08 13:06                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-08 20:19                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-11 13:20                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-11 13:52                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-11 17:12                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-05 18:19                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-06  8:22                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 13:04                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-06 14:59                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-06 16:17                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-05-08  3:09                                                           ` Kevin Rodgers
2010-05-08 13:54                                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-05-08 15:42                                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-09 14:01                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-05-09 14:21                                                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-05-09 15:01                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29  9:01                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29  9:23                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-29 10:01                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29 10:37                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-29 12:16                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-06-29 20:14                                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-29 20:01                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-06-30  6:35                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-06-30  8:12                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10 19:19             ` Gtk tabs in emacs, new branch Stefan Monnier
2010-04-02 16:19     ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02 18:31       ` Daniel Colascione
2010-04-02 20:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-03  6:29         ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-03  9:07           ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02  6:53 ` Uwe Siart
2010-04-02  7:25   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-04 11:01     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-02 12:19   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-04-13 19:53 grischka
2010-04-10 17:33 A. Soare
2010-04-09 13:33 A. Soare
2010-04-09  9:47 A. Soare
2010-04-09 11:15 ` Jan D.
2010-04-10  1:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10  1:36     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10  6:12       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11  1:16         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-11 12:50           ` Tobias C. Rittweiler
2010-04-11 15:40             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-11 15:28           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-11 16:05             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 18:32               ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-12 23:47                 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13  3:50                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13  5:29                     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13 13:05                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-14  5:03                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-14 14:30                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13  6:53                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-13 12:28                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13  5:53                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-13 12:30                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 20:54                       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 18:09             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-12 23:45             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13  2:42               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-13  6:29                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-13 17:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-13 18:15                   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-13 18:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-10  1:47     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-10  2:19       ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10  6:15       ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10  9:14         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-10  9:46           ` joakim
2010-04-10 10:18             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-10 11:01               ` joakim
2010-04-10 12:38               ` Štěpán Němec
2010-04-10 14:58               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 10:58             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 12:09               ` joakim
2010-04-11  1:18             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10 10:52           ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10  5:51     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 15:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 15:33         ` Chong Yidong
2010-04-10 18:51           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 16:10         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 16:40           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-10 17:06             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 16:42           ` Davis Herring
2010-04-10 17:11             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 17:16               ` Davis Herring
2010-04-10 17:54                 ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 18:44                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-10 19:14                     ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 19:51                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-10 21:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-11 10:56                         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-11 15:09                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 19:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-10 19:07             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-10 19:56               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-12 16:14         ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-12 19:18           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-12 20:22             ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-12 21:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-13 15:08         ` René Kyllingstad
2010-04-10 16:06       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-04-11 12:11       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-11 18:09         ` Drew Adams
2010-04-12 23:49           ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-13  2:58             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-13  4:11               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-13 16:15                 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-14 10:30                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-04-01 13:07 Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 13:24 ` Leo
2010-04-01 18:02 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 20:13   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-09 23:27     ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-09 23:54       ` Drew Adams
2010-04-10  0:17         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-10  2:56       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-11  1:06         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 18:50 ` Chong Yidong
2010-04-01 20:08   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 20:09   ` Jan Djärv
2010-04-01 21:53   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-09  7:23 ` alin.s
2010-04-09  9:34   ` Jan D.

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