From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Aneesh Kumar K. V" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Efforts to attract more users? Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:56:40 +0530 Message-ID: <87ocehdsjz.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278660425 1897 80.91.229.12 (9 Jul 2010 07:27:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 07:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: fplemma@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, joakim@verona.se Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 09 09:26:58 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OX7z7-0005HH-R5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:26:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39788 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OX7z7-0004Do-A6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:26:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56916 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OX7z1-0004Dj-19 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:26:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OX7yz-0004oX-9A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:26:50 -0400 Original-Received: from e28smtp09.in.ibm.com ([122.248.162.9]:50534) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OX7yy-0004nw-GW; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:26:49 -0400 Original-Received: from d28relay05.in.ibm.com (d28relay05.in.ibm.com [9.184.220.62]) by e28smtp09.in.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o697NlOP000642; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:53:47 +0530 Original-Received: from d28av05.in.ibm.com (d28av05.in.ibm.com [9.184.220.67]) by d28relay05.in.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id o697QfiH2924684; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:56:41 +0530 Original-Received: from d28av05.in.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d28av05.in.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id o697QeLm002393; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:26:40 +1000 Original-Received: from skywalker.linux.vnet.ibm.com ([9.124.35.50]) by d28av05.in.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id o697Qeci002381; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:26:40 +1000 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Notmuch/ (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126936 Archived-At: On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:05:31 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > The Eclipse IDE has some nice features. Maybe CEDET gives us some of > them, but maybe we still lack some. > > I saw it once, and it used tabs a lot for switching between different views. > We need to be able to do that too. > > Also, one advantage of Eclipse's GUI interface is that it shows you a > lot of features when they might be useful. So you don't have as much > to learn and remember. Rather than features one of important thing to "fix" would be to make CEDET faster. Pushing some of CEDET related task to thread (when threading becomes available) or converting some of the performance sensitive code to C and call them from emacs would be a solution. Right now with CEDET enabled, it gets in the way of normal editing. I have to explicitly set semantic-idle-scheduler-idle-time to a higher value to prevent idle scheduler from kicking in early. -aneesh