From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8492: 23.3; Time to use a different binding for completion? Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:08:14 -0400 Message-ID: <87oc3vwmi9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87zknuhxl4.fsf@sc3d.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1303670271 17507 80.91.229.12 (24 Apr 2011 18:37:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8492@debbugs.gnu.org, Reuben Thomas To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 24 20:37:41 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QE4Bd-0003bT-6P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:37:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44169 helo=lists2.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QE4Bc-00049p-OU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:37:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59527) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QE4BZ-00048u-Dr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:37:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QE4BY-0004Xp-DQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:37:33 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51886) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QE4BY-0004Xl-A3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:37:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QE3jy-0001S6-17; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:09:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8492 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8492-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8492.13036685045536 (code B ref 8492); Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8492) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2011 18:08:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QE3jL-0001RE-TM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:08:24 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.147]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QE3jK-0001R4-Pj for 8492@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:08:23 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp128036225098.central.yale.edu [128.36.225.98]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p3OI8FWZ020487 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:08:15 -0400 Original-Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E87F416055B; Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:08:14 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:53:28 -0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.147 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 14:09:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:45962 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Is it therefore time to admit defeat and find an alternative binding for >> completion functions, even if it=E2=80=99s an extra binding rather than = simply a >> different one? > > TAB can do completion if you (setq tab-always-indent 'complete). I tried this out some time ago, but found it unsatisfactory. The problem was that I sometimes spuriously triggered completion when I only intended to indent, because the current line happened to be correctly indented. It is often difficult to tell by eye whether a line is already indented. (Another related topic is that of binding TAB to lisp-complete-symbol in read-expression-map; this was brought up on emacs-devel some time ago, but the discussion petered out IIRC.)