From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6693: 24.0.50; font-lock-(builtin|doc) faces are *way* too close Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:32:06 -0400 Message-ID: <87oc1a4vyx.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <05CB9D294C4646D5A2F574AB5A9DFA55@us.oracle.com> <13C511D445304C4C94EE650D4796ECD0@us.oracle.com> <4E110EB6.3060407@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309746806 15035 80.91.229.12 (4 Jul 2011 02:33:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 02:33:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen' , 6693@debbugs.gnu.org To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 04:33:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYyM-0003Jb-28 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 04:33:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39659 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYyL-0006NH-1J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:33:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39430) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYy7-0006NA-Az for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:33:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYy6-0007PS-8l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57998) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYy6-0007PM-6x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYy6-0004bw-2x; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:33:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 02:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6693 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6693-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6693.130974673817663 (code B ref 6693); Mon, 04 Jul 2011 02:33:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6693) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2011 02:32:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYxN-0004aq-L4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:32:17 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.144]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdYxL-0004af-3c for 6693@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:32:15 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp128036225047.central.yale.edu [128.36.225.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p642W63t029709 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 3 Jul 2011 22:32:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4E110EB6.3060407@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Mon, 04 Jul 2011 01:52:06 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.144 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:33:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:47911 Archived-At: David De La Harpe Golden writes: > I'd say we absolutely should try to keep the emacs out-of-box color > scheme colorblind-safe That is hard to get right; a color-blind safe palette inherently conflicts with the goal of making face colors as distinguishable as possible for the non-color-blind. Emacs 24 has a custom theme (dichromacy) that implements a palette specifically optimized for dichromatic color blindness. As for font-lock-builtin-face, changing it back to Orchid is no good; that shade is far too light, at least on the LCD monitors I've used Emacs on. I wouldn't mind changing it to something completely different though, e.g. midnight blue. We have too may purplish colors in the default palette anyway.