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X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150396 Archived-At: >>>>> "Eric" == Eric Schulte writes: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: >> >>> > We don't want to bother with MIME for short snippets. >>> >>> Then what do you think your MUA is there for? >> >> The support for embedding small snippets via MIME is dicey in some mail >> readers, last time I looked. They present(ed) the first textual part as >> the only visible text, and presented the rest as attachments. > To contribute to the bikeshedding [1], I've composed an example email in > gnus with inline Org-mode-syntax code, inline mime-annotated code, and > attached (disposition=inline) code. The results as displayed by gnus, > gmail and gmx are shown [2]. I don't know if gnus should limit itself > based on the limitations of non-standards-compliant commercial software, > but at the least it would seem that while the mime approach /should/ be > the most portable it will in fact not be portable to many (maybe most) > other MUAs. Note that it's the reason why my initial proposal was based on inline multipart alternative. Providing a MIME fallback that any MUA should recognize (such as text/plain) should increase vastly the chances of proper formatting. At least GMail behaves "correctly" when the text/plain alternative is provided. Yann. -- We do what we must. 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