From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.eieio Subject: Re: Cleaning up the EIEIO namespace Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 07:44:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87obfog1bj.fsf@engster.org> References: <87sj51fakd.fsf@engster.org> <95379C8C6AEF4A02A79D2958B6864FB0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1360738294 27182 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2013 06:51:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 06:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, cedet-eieio@lists.sourceforge.net, 'Stefan Monnier' , "'Eric M. Ludlam'" To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 13 07:51:55 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U5WCA-0002ak-Jd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 07:51:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51521 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5WBq-0004TW-H1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:51:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44817) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5WBn-0004TG-No for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:51:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5WBm-0000KR-CA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:51:31 -0500 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([83.169.19.17]:37469) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5W56-0007Jj-R5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:44:37 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=SaUPMZ5uLcNkWkX4DWs+p5w8Rnf9WuT550NPo5fG1Ho=; b=osrAFSnrnqTUg94+POCnRTsvbkFLCa+WHXg/+vYr4pPOT4ERwpbzCUlSsVJIurbBzyQUkc0bLBiL6iFa6/gaPzfNc4RNBfxp3ZjS8Y1gHe6CPysgSz8yB9QcdYA166AA; Original-Received: from dslc-082-083-060-072.pools.arcor-ip.net ([82.83.60.72] helo=spaten) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U5W53-0003XH-8w; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 07:44:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <95379C8C6AEF4A02A79D2958B6864FB0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:05:51 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.92 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: "Drew Adams" , "'Stefan Monnier'" , "'Eric M. Ludlam'" , , X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 83.169.19.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:156998 gmane.emacs.eieio:134 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: >> Your suggestion was to use the shorter 'cl-' prefix instead, >> and at least I think that is a good compromise. So instead of >> using 'eieio-class-name', for instance, we'd rather use >> 'cl-class-name'. > > So does this mean that we can no longer know from the `cl-' prefix which library > is involved? > > (I don't mean which file in the library, but which library. In the past, `cl-' > pretty much indicated library `cl' - either file cl.el or one of its related > files cl-mac.el, cl-seq.el etc.) That is certainly a valid concern. But I (and I guess Stefan, too) was thinking more along the lines that 'cl' essentially means "common lisp", and EIEIO being a CLOS implementation, this would make sense. Maybe it would be cleaner to also rename the eieio- files to cl-clos-, but that would break a lot of things out there. -David