From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs history, and "Is Emacs difficult to learn?" Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:08:45 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87ob9jj4ya.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> References: <87y58pplcp.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375207820 23731 80.91.229.3 (30 Jul 2013 18:10:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:10:20 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 30 20:10:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V4ENG-0002DL-Hh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:10:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55175 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4ENF-0007mn-Ta for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:10:17 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 28 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SWN/nubmpQxYKwY7hPy4YA.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:njJpXvTQoNsolXztxlJN26yKbq8= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:200298 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92565 Archived-At: Rustom Mody writes: > Some years back Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote in response to a noob > asking why he should learn emacs Unfortunately, no one can be "told" what Emacs is. You have to use it yourself. > real programmers use their brain. > real programmers program their brain. > often, real programmers' brain-programming program is emacs. Not only real programmers program their brain. This is the same thing Muhammad Ali did, bragging at press conference, or people spending time in jail, always making their beds perfectly, and counting the number of push-ups they do every day. It is just something that everybody that has problems, or challenges, in their lives, can benefit from. A lot. And: perhaps all this "noob" talk discourages people from making their first post? (Not saying, that all quiet people are newcomers to Emacs. But some are.) Perhaps that word shouldn't be used at all. -- Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below) computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573