From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: obarray Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 18:47:29 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87ob4ixayd.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <87haabq6gl.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87bo0irj13.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87r49epukc.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387129812 2879 80.91.229.3 (15 Dec 2013 17:50:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 17:50:12 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 15 18:50:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VsFpb-00027c-G3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 18:50:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51932 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VsFpa-0000jM-T2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 12:50:18 -0500 X-Received: by 10.180.11.41 with SMTP id n9mr7530532wib.2.1387129675386; Sun, 15 Dec 2013 09:47:55 -0800 (PST) X-FeedAbuse: http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/abuse.pl feeded by 88.191.116.97 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!w6no2584418wiw.0!news-out.google.com!h6ni7318wiy.1!nntp.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!nntpfeed.proxad.net!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 27 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:igTHmQKW4T3AUxWoxXFL5tw5kTI= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:202747 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:95016 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: >> CL or not, I get the same situation (what I can >> see), the symbol *does* end up in obarray, and that >> second part (setf or set) - what is that supposed to >> do? What I can see it doesn't change the value, > > (symbol-value uninterned-symbol) > > ==> bar > > Note that we are not speaking about the symbol > uninterned-symbol, which is in obarray, but about its > value, which is another symbol that is not in > obarray, has name "foo", and now a value of bar. We > made that uninterned symbol the value of another > interned symbol because we can't refer to an > uninterned symbol directly in a program. Right. Chrystal clear. This answers most of the questions in my previous post, I think, although don't hesitate to elaborate (as always). I'm very appreciative of this. -- Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573