From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:28:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87ob391cgf.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <877gact76s.fsf@gnu.org> <34c8c13b-c5c6-4e5a-9248-b09d5d1936da@default> <87eh4hkq6c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83y52dk82n.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjmtwqtv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390062613 2303 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2014 16:30:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:30:13 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 18 17:30:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W4Ymo-0003qH-WE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:30:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43422 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4Ymo-0006l0-IY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:30:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44393) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4Ymg-0006eP-OY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:30:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4Yma-0004xe-TG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:30:10 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:47585) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4Yma-0004vN-Nh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 11:30:04 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W4YmZ-0003gY-Jr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:30:03 +0100 Original-Received: from 148.red-81-38-254.dynamicip.rima-tde.net ([81.38.254.148]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:30:03 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 148.red-81-38-254.dynamicip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:30:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 148.red-81-38-254.dynamicip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SPn9hbNXmAzoYoMTKBnEleA3Fzc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168692 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > That's a red herring. What people are looking for are not editors that > are easy to learn, but editors that can be used without learning > anything at all. People are looking for editors that work similar enough to those that they already know. For most people, the *promise* of improved efficiency is not credible enough to invest the required time to learn Emacs. [snip]