From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18051: 24.3.92; ls-lisp: Sorting; make ls-lisp-string-lessp a normal function? Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:08:25 +0200 Message-ID: <87oav5u7om.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87ha2f5gp8.fsf@web.de> <83wqb84e7l.fsf@gnu.org> <87iomsgsqg.fsf@gmx.de> <83tx6c44x7.fsf@gnu.org> <87egxggigj.fsf@gmx.de> <877g28w19r.fsf@gmx.de> <83sikvcbqr.fsf@gnu.org> <83r40fc876.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqa7uf7w.fsf@gmx.de> <83oavjc5jj.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4uixleg.fsf@gmx.de> <83sikpc3cd.fsf@gnu.org> <87ha147gd5.fsf@gmx.de> <83a96vmv80.fsf@gnu.org> <87a96vuph7.fsf@gmx.de> <8361hjm7pr.fsf@gnu.org> <8738cnuev3.fsf@gmx.de> <83zjeukkf9.fsf@gnu.org> <878uma2u7y.fsf@gmx.de> <4yzjeqq6gb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1409162966 16551 80.91.229.3 (27 Aug 2014 18:09:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 18051@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 27 20:09:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XMhen-0002wD-NU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:09:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:61000 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMhen-0002k8-8k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:09:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39458) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMhee-0002hJ-UO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:09:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMheZ-0004KV-1L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46865) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMheY-0004KR-Ts for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMheY-0000mj-6K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:09:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18051 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18051-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18051.14091629242990 (code B ref 18051); Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18051) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Aug 2014 18:08:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53808 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMheF-0000m8-Ed for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:08:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:65353) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMheC-0000lu-DJ for 18051@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:08:41 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.47.172]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MbgKD-1X4LRh3olp-00J1yG; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:08:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4yzjeqq6gb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:48:36 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:j/r+JCfdxZCFks32W+P1ggO+uG+jPb6fVsvKyEjGLU6D/QUMuVY dYb/dMrIwzrkyZ9bb0uaC0OPlXzW668jyNx1unGaDcLF8JSBaRbejWc2DkXt0VMcjgk2+Nv Gw+nKxNVfx6W+jTFht2J5SrSZLvd8oG9ljhzBKHFSwWUnt5YY3g8eA1G8YNsMaIquCuvSGY qC1XufUS0NJoNWM8gm5uA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:92732 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > I'm missing something, because I don't get why you want me to write (in > authors.el): > > (let ((process-environment > (cons "LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8" > process-environment))) > (sort authors-author-list > (lambda (a b) (string-collate-lessp (car a) (car b))))) > > rather than the obviously-better: > > (sort authors-author-list > (lambda (a b) (string-collate-lessp (car a) (car b) "en_US.UTF-8"))) > > Normally one controls functions through their arguments, not the > environment. authors.el is a special case: - Your sort predicate is not an existing function, but a lambda. Usually, I would expect something like (sort any-list 'string-collate-lessp) - You use a hard-coded value for the locale. The intention is to make it configurable for the user. If, for example, a user wants to use another collation order but the one given by "en_US.UTF-8", you end up in offering a variable which can be set. Don't know whether this is desirable in authors.el, 'tho. Best regards, Michael.