From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: proposal: require GnuTLS 3.1.x (previous stable) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:52:32 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87oartaoq7.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87389762xj.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87h9xnqfdl.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87mw7eaz2w.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417020952 28892 80.91.229.3 (26 Nov 2014 16:55:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:55:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 26 17:55:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XtfsS-00041O-Gx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:55:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34861 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XtfsS-0001aV-5I for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:55:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33278) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xtfrz-0001aE-Rs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:55:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xtfrt-0005GM-UY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:55:11 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43118) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xtfrt-0005Dm-OU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:55:05 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xtfrr-0003Xp-Q8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:55:04 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:55:03 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:55:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:iqIObhwmHkJzPmPG87YXexgbbhE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178307 Archived-At: On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:42:37 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: SM> We usually consider it OK to drop support for things that are "older SM> than Debian stable" or thereabout. But usually it depends a lot on the SM> cost of maintaining this backward compatibility. In this case, the cost SM> seems to be very reasonable, so I see no reason to drop support for SM> GnuTLS2 at this stage. Those tradeoffs change over time, so by Emacs-26 SM> it's quite likely that we'll get rid of GnuTLS2 support, indeed. OK, so let's reevaluate then. For now we'll continue supporting the 2.x versions we do now. It would be extremely helpful to have an easy way to test Emacs compilation and functionality with ERT, perhaps in a Vagrantfile or in Hydra or Travis or whatever. Ted