From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:53:55 +0100 Message-ID: <87oap2rq9o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <874mqvf4dj.fsf@panthera.terpri.org> <87sieeru2k.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423565660 31368 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2015 10:54:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Helmut Eller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 10 11:54:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8SQ-0007KR-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:54:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39054 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8SQ-0000rw-0x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 05:54:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33062) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8S5-0000nC-7o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 05:53:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8S4-0006BQ-B6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 05:53:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52826) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8S4-0006BI-7z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 05:53:56 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60001 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8S3-0007M4-On; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 05:53:56 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 11A3FE0514; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:53:55 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Helmut Eller's message of "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:44:42 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182797 Archived-At: Helmut Eller writes: > On Tue, Feb 10 2015, David Kastrup wrote: > >> There is absolutely nothing the LLVM team could do more other than >> assigning all of their copyrights to the FSF in order to hand over >> licensing and development control. > > They could use multiple licenses like some other projects do, That's nonsense. They are using a GPL compatible license already. There is no point in making a "dual-license" release when one license already implies all the rights of the other anyway. > or they could say that they prefer to help NVIDIA than to help the > FSF. But this is just speculation as neither me nor you are in charge > of LLVM. It is not speculation but nonsense. LLVM is already released under GPL compatible terms. They _are_ already giving us permission for all we could ask of them. You can make a GPL-only release of LLVM today if you want to. This "they could say that they prefer to help NVIDIA than to help the FSF" is a load of bollocks. What else do you want? Tell them to dissolve their own community and commit ritual suicide? Those interested in LLVM will still be able to take the code and continue developing it. -- David Kastrup