* Breaking news: What did the IETF ever do for us? The *entire* list!
@ 2015-04-02 2:31 Emanuel Berg
2015-04-02 2:59 ` Alexis
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-04-02 2:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
The RFC memos and specifications - published by the
semi-mythical IETF - are available in the Debian
repositories as the non-free 'doc-rfc' metapackage.
After installation ('sudo aptitude install doc-rfc')
the files can be inspected in /usr/share/doc/RFC.
They are all in .gz format, but one can unzip them
with gunzip to get a neat 407M directory instead. Win!
This makes it easier to manipulate the files with
familiar and unfamiliar tools alike.
Now it gets interesting. I wrote this zsh function to
search the RFCs:
search-rfc () {
local search=$1
files=("${(@f)$(grep -i $search -l /usr/share/doc/RFC/*/**.txt)}")
for f in $files; do
local data=`grep -c -H -i $search $f`
local occs=${data##*:}
local filename=${data%:*}
echo $occs\\t$filename
done | sort -n -r
}
So now I can answer the question: What did the IETF
ever do for us? The first column is the number of hits
for the search string, in the document to the right:
"Emacs"
7 /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1580.txt
5 /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc2629.txt
5 /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1056.txt
3 /usr/share/doc/RFC/queue/draft-ietf-lisp-22.txt
2 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc6120.txt
2 /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1554.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/unclassified/rfc1003.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc4833.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc1144.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/links/rfc1957.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc2223.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1957.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1842.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1599.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/historic/rfc1422.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/historic/rfc1203.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1689.txt
"Elisp":
5 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc4444.txt
1 /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1580.txt
... ...
"Gnus":
8 /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc2808.txt
6 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc4867.txt
6 /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc6064.txt
4 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc3611.txt
3 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc5993.txt
3 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc5404.txt
3 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc4352.txt
3 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc3767.txt
3 /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc2228.txt
3 /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc4613.txt
... ...
Dig, diggers!
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2015-04-02 2:31 Breaking news: What did the IETF ever do for us? The *entire* list! Emanuel Berg
@ 2015-04-02 2:59 ` Alexis
2015-04-02 7:11 ` tomas
2015-04-02 3:27 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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From: Alexis @ 2015-04-02 2:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:
> The RFC memos and specifications - published by the
> semi-mythical IETF - are available in the Debian repositories as
> the non-free 'doc-rfc' metapackage.
>
> After installation ('sudo aptitude install doc-rfc') the files
> can be inspected in /usr/share/doc/RFC. They are all in .gz
> format, but one can unzip them with gunzip to get a neat 407M
> directory instead. Win! This makes it easier to manipulate the
> files with familiar and unfamiliar tools alike.
>
> Now it gets interesting. I wrote this zsh function to search the
> RFCs:
Also, there's the `irfc` package for Emacs, which i've found very
useful:
http://melpa.org/#/irfc
Alexis.
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2015-04-02 2:59 ` Alexis
@ 2015-04-02 7:11 ` tomas
2015-04-02 7:35 ` Alexis
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: tomas @ 2015-04-02 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexis; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
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On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 01:59:38PM +1100, Alexis wrote:
[...]
> Also, there's the `irfc` package for Emacs, which i've found very
> useful:
>
> http://melpa.org/#/irfc
Ick. Javascript-only. Is there a human-readable version of that?
Thanks
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* Re: Breaking news: What did the IETF ever do for us? The *entire* list!
2015-04-02 7:11 ` tomas
@ 2015-04-02 7:35 ` Alexis
2015-04-02 7:51 ` tomas
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Alexis @ 2015-04-02 7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
tomas@tuxteam.de writes:
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> On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 01:59:38PM +1100, Alexis wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Also, there's the `irfc` package for Emacs, which i've found
>> very useful:
>>
>> http://melpa.org/#/irfc
>
> Ick. Javascript-only. Is there a human-readable version of that?
Sure. The MELPA package is built from the source available on the
EmacsWiki:
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Irfc
Alexis.
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* Re: Breaking news: What did the IETF ever do for us? The *entire* list!
2015-04-02 7:35 ` Alexis
@ 2015-04-02 7:51 ` tomas
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From: tomas @ 2015-04-02 7:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alexis; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs
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On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 06:35:05PM +1100, Alexis wrote:
> tomas@tuxteam.de writes:
[...]
> > [whine, moan]
>
> Sure. The MELPA package is built from the source available on the
> EmacsWiki:
>
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Irfc
Hey, thanks a bunch :-)
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* Re: Breaking news: What did the IETF ever do for us? The *entire* list!
2015-04-02 2:31 Breaking news: What did the IETF ever do for us? The *entire* list! Emanuel Berg
2015-04-02 2:59 ` Alexis
@ 2015-04-02 3:27 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-04-02 22:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-03 1:42 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.3167.1427943592.31049.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Pascal J. Bourguignon @ 2015-04-02 3:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:
> The RFC memos and specifications - published by the
> semi-mythical IETF - are available in the Debian
> repositories as the non-free 'doc-rfc' metapackage.
>
> After installation ('sudo aptitude install doc-rfc')
> the files can be inspected in /usr/share/doc/RFC.
> They are all in .gz format, but one can unzip them
> with gunzip to get a neat 407M directory instead. Win!
> This makes it easier to manipulate the files with
> familiar and unfamiliar tools alike.
>
> Now it gets interesting. I wrote this zsh function to
> search the RFCs:
>
> search-rfc () {
> local search=$1
> files=("${(@f)$(grep -i $search -l /usr/share/doc/RFC/*/**.txt)}")
> for f in $files; do
> local data=`grep -c -H -i $search $f`
> local occs=${data##*:}
> local filename=${data%:*}
> echo $occs\\t$filename
> done | sort -n -r
> }
Wrong.
1- it should be written in emacs lisp.
2- you should search words using \< \> in regexp, to avoid finding
"isisCircLevelISPriority" when searching for "elisp".
Something like:
(defvar *rfc-base-directory* "/data/doc/rfc/")q
(defun search-rfc (word)
(interactive "sRFC Search Word: ")
(find-grep (format "find %S -name \\*.txt -exec grep -nHi %s {} \\;"
(shell-quote-argument *rfc-base-directory*)
(shell-quote-argument (concat "\\<" word "\\>")))))
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
“The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a
dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to
keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk
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2015-04-02 3:27 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
@ 2015-04-02 22:56 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-03 1:42 ` Emanuel Berg
1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-04-02 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
writes:
> Wrong.
>
> 1- it should be written in emacs lisp. 2- you should
> search words using \< \> in regexp, to avoid finding
> "isisCircLevelISPriority" when searching for
> "elisp".
>
> Something like:
>
> (defvar *rfc-base-directory* "/data/doc/rfc/")q
>
> (defun search-rfc (word) (interactive "sRFC Search
> Word: ") (find-grep (format "find %S -name \\*.txt
> -exec grep -nHi %s {} \\;" (shell-quote-argument
> *rfc-base-directory*) (shell-quote-argument (concat
> "\\<" word "\\>")))))
Ha ha :) I'll try that in a minute.
But "Emacs Lisp"? Aren't you the advocate of the
"industrial strength Lisps" - Common Lisp, as the
example was?
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2015-04-02 3:27 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-04-02 22:56 ` Emanuel Berg
@ 2015-04-03 1:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-03 1:33 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-04-03 1:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
writes:
> Wrong.
>
> 1- it should be written in emacs lisp. 2- you should
> search words using \< \> in regexp, to avoid finding
> "isisCircLevelISPriority" when searching for
> "elisp".
>
> Something like:
>
> (defvar *rfc-base-directory* "/data/doc/rfc/")
>
> (defun search-rfc (word) (interactive "sRFC Search
> Word: ") (find-grep (format "find %S -name \\*.txt
> -exec grep -nHi %s {} \\;" (shell-quote-argument
> *rfc-base-directory*) (shell-quote-argument (concat
> "\\<" word "\\>")))))
This is a different function: it doesn't do the rank,
and it shows the the hit fragments. The idea is rather
a function that points you to the right document,
which you then examine peace and quiet.
By the way, *rfc-base-directory* (the asterisks) is
indeed CL (convention) syntax for global variables.
But I agree the word part is a good idea. You can do
that with the 'grep -w' option, so currently the best
version of this function is:
search-rfc () {
local search=$1
files=("${(@f)$(grep -w -i $search -l /usr/share/doc/RFC/*/**.txt)}")
for f in $files; do
local data=`grep -w -c -H -i $search $f`
local occs=${data##*:}
local filename=${data%:*}
echo $occs\\t$filename
done | sort -n -r
}
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@ 2015-04-03 1:33 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-04-04 1:30 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Pascal J. Bourguignon @ 2015-04-03 1:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se> writes:
> But I agree the word part is a good idea. You can do
> that with the 'grep -w' option, so currently the best
> version of this function is:
The point was, in gnu.emacs.help,
to write elisp code, rather than bash. ;-)
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dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to
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2015-04-03 1:33 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
@ 2015-04-04 1:30 ` Emanuel Berg
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From: Emanuel Berg @ 2015-04-04 1:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
I made a couple of changes to the interface, notably
so it searches the manpages and the jargon file as
well, and actually any other body of documentation,
e.g. the info files, that is added the same way.
The RFCs seem to be tough to beat in terms of
quantity, but scroll down (the output, last this post)
for "jargon" and "manpage" in the second column of the
output (the command is 'cid uucp') to see they are at
least on the board.
"Cid" = common interface to documentation, named after
the cigarette (?) smoking airship mechanic in the
Final Fantasy games :)
Behold the zsh source:
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/conf/.zsh/cid
It can be used from Emacs, as to output the paths in
a buffer, as in
(defun insert-shell-command (cmd)
(interactive "s Command: ")
(let ((pos (point))
(end (point-max)) )
(shell-command cmd 1)
(goto-char (+ pos (1- (- (point-max) end)))) ))
(should make a special version which also brings up
the buffer) - anyway, then one can go to a file with
(defun find-file-at-line (&optional other-window)
(interactive "P")
(let ((possible-filename (thing-at-point 'filename))
(find-f (if other-window 'find-file-other-window 'find-file)) )
(if (and possible-filename (file-exists-p possible-filename))
(apply find-f (list possible-filename))
(progn
(forward-char 1)
(find-file-at-line) ))))
The 'cid uucp' output - occurrences, body, and file:
53 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/unclassified/rfc976.txt
39 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/unclassified/rfc850.txt
34 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1166.txt
22 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/historic/rfc1849.txt
21 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1480.txt
20 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/proposed-standard/rfc977.txt
19 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1386.txt
17 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/unclassified/rfc987.txt
14 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1117.txt
14 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1865.txt
14 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1168.txt
14 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1168.ps
13 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/proposed-standard/rfc1327.txt
13 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/historic/rfc1700.txt
13 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/experimental/rfc1148.txt
13 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/experimental/rfc1138.txt
13 jargon /home/incal/jargon/JARGON-4.4.7
10 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/unclassified/rfc1062.txt
9 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/historic/rfc1340.txt
9 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1935.txt
8 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1506.txt
8 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1175.txt
7 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/unclassified/rfc819.txt
7 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/unclassified/rfc1036.txt
7 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1211.txt
6 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/unclassified/rfc1020.txt
6 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1392.txt
6 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1394.txt
6 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1983.txt
5 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/unclassified/rfc915.txt
5 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/unclassified/rfc1000.txt
4 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/unclassified/rfc886.txt
4 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/unclassified/rfc999.txt
4 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1594.txt
4 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1578.txt
4 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1325.txt
4 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/historic/rfc1060.txt
4 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc2626.txt
4 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1711.txt
4 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc2235.txt
3 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc5537.txt
3 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/historic/rfc923.txt
3 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc2896.txt
3 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1530.txt
3 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1432.txt
3 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/historic/rfc1137.txt
3 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1941.txt
3 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1470.txt
3 manpage /usr/share/man/man1/uucp.1posix
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc5427.txt
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc2142.txt
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc1985.txt
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1147.txt
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/historic/rfc990.txt
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/historic/rfc960.txt
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/historic/rfc943.txt
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/historic/rfc1010.txt
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc2076.txt
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc2901.txt
2 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1689.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/unclassified/rfc1032.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/unclassified/rfc1017.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/rfc-unknown.html
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/rfc-index.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/proposed-standard/rfc5424.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc3164.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1251.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1206.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1177.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/informational/rfc1147.ps
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/historic/rfc974.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/experimental/rfc1405.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/old/experimental/rfc1154.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc5113.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc3974.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc3234.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc2839.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc2053.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1912.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1733.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1681.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1588.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1330.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1273.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1272.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1210.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1208.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1135.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1118.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/informational/rfc1012.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1855.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1635.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1580.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/for-your-information/rfc1336.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/draft-standard/rfc1191.txt
1 rfc /usr/share/doc/RFC/best-current-practice/rfc2505.txt
1 manpage /usr/share/man/man1/uustat.1posix
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