From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: understanding backquote
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 22:03:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oakx513l.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.4175.1433272668.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Olaf Rogalsky <olaf.rogalsky@aol.de> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I have problems in understanding the semantics of backquote. Consider
> the following function:
>
> (defun test () `,(* (+ 1 2) (+ 3 4)))
>
> Now let's have a look at the defintion of the symbol:
>
> (symbol-function 'test)
> => (lambda nil (* (+ 1 2) (+ 3 4)))
>
> Huhh??? I was thinking, that the above definition is equivalent to the
> following:
>
> (defun test () 21)
>
> Ok, this was unexpected, but perhaps the compiler does it "right":
> (disassemble (byte-compile 'test))
> => byte code:
> args: nil
> 0 constant 21
> 1 return
>
> Yes, it does. It is only, that I suspect, that this has nothing to do
> with backquotes, but rather with constant folding optimization.
>
> Can anybody explain this to me?
`,x is equivalent to x.
(info "(elisp) Backquote")
More details are given in the Common Lisp specification of the backquote
reader macro, but it's "extrapolation" relative to emacs lisp:
http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/02_df.htm
Now, the fact that you obtain a simple constant function is unrelated
to the backquote, but comes from the fact that you have a good and smart
compiler, that notices that the expression is a constant expression, and
therefore it is reduced at compilation time:
(disassemble (byte-compile (lambda nil (* (+ 1 2) (+ 3 4)))))
byte code:
args: nil
0 constant 21
1 return
With variables, it is another matter:
(disassemble (byte-compile (lambda (a b c d) `,(* (+ a b) (+ c d)))))
byte code:
args: (a b c d)
0 varref a
1 varref b
2 plus
3 varref c
4 varref d
5 plus
6 mult
7 return
--
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-02 13:28 gtags-find-tag and gtags-find-rtag in C-code Peter Münster
2015-06-02 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-02 16:01 ` Peter Münster
2015-06-02 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-06-02 19:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-06-02 20:34 ` Peter Münster
2015-06-02 19:17 ` understanding backquote Olaf Rogalsky
2015-06-03 11:05 ` Nicolas Richard
[not found] ` <mailman.4231.1433345880.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-03 18:53 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.4175.1433272668.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-02 20:03 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2015-06-02 23:00 ` Olaf Rogalsky
2015-06-03 10:40 ` Nicolas Richard
[not found] ` <mailman.4191.1433286041.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-02 23:08 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-02 21:22 ` Barry Margolin
2015-06-02 22:53 ` Olaf Rogalsky
[not found] ` <mailman.4189.1433285612.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-02 23:07 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-02 23:54 ` Olaf Rogalsky
[not found] ` <mailman.4193.1433289260.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-03 1:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-03 7:57 ` Olaf Rogalsky
2015-06-03 10:23 ` Olaf Rogalsky
2015-06-03 2:37 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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