From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: string> missing? Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:53:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87oaktxlnx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87oakxkvqw.fsf@petton.fr> <83zj4grgkc.fsf@gnu.org> <87sia8n8b5.fsf@petton.fr> <87zj4gu821.fsf@gnu.org> <83sia8rdkm.fsf@gnu.org> <83pp5crbfd.fsf@gnu.org> <837frjqzpk.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpzinfhy.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpzhc2i7.fsf@gnu.org> <83lhfxnxv0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1433580855 2520 80.91.229.3 (6 Jun 2015 08:54:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 08:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nicolas@petton.fr, nandryshak@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 06 10:54:00 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z19rb-00082j-KA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 10:53:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51064 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z19ra-0006id-Qt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 04:53:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57817) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z19rO-0006iK-O5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 04:53:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z19rK-0002Qf-KL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 04:53:46 -0400 Original-Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:59225) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z19rK-0002QH-Cj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 04:53:42 -0400 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DEE210A5 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 04:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 06 Jun 2015 04:53:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=ufrIuhHswlR6ijfku1/4IyyZyaE=; b=thdB0 8Bl0OelajLPHjKb+cBDf0nWjw4/g7G1t9VQOmnEWQZXZFrRkImABSzgboRi7JI8T e/NaMdtrZ8zb8y8NR/hHPr6YMT31MPDHzQyxoT5xQ/DkqIvBL2ch8e/oghHJkx4S iOe1z/OGqomhfL/IjrSf/Vx6vMaUWruCdDYWJ0= X-Sasl-enc: 4s26N6H/9FtwET4KzMRSX6xCUf8O//igVEnxBQf17wW7 1433580821 Original-Received: from thinkpad-t440p (unknown [2.161.21.19]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BF66FC00019; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 04:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , rms@gnu.org, nicolas@petton.fr, nandryshak@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <83lhfxnxv0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:40:19 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187062 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > It was also insignificant back when you decided not to include it. >> >> Adding string> to Emacs proper is maybe additional 200 bytes but may >> save a multiple of its size when packages start using it instead of >> defining their own version each. For example, there are already >> gnus-string>, org-string>, and also org-string>=. And there are also >> quite many lambdas implementing string>, e.g., in emacs/lisp/help.el, so >> the addition of string> can in fact reduce the Emacs footprint if it >> gets used there. > > All of that was true back when Richard made his decision. It would seem that today there are more packages bundled in emacs and the typical user is more likely of using a good dozen of addon packages, so the chances of re-uses of a function like string> effectively reducing the size of a complete emacs install might be larger. Bye, Tassilo