From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:11:15 +0200 Organization: not if I can help it Message-ID: <87oakcg4kc.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <87fv5qtik0.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434658321 27862 80.91.229.3 (18 Jun 2015 20:12:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:12:01 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 18 22:11:52 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gAA-0005he-MU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:11:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54752 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gA9-0004cX-Od for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:11:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41163) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gA5-0004cS-Ke for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:11:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gA0-0001UF-GJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56108) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5gA0-0001TZ-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 16:11:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5g9q-0005Qz-UM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:11:31 +0200 Original-Received: from vav06-1-78-207-202-9.fbx.proxad.net ([78.207.202.9]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:11:30 +0200 Original-Received: from rpluim by vav06-1-78-207-202-9.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:11:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: vav06-1-78-207-202-9.fbx.proxad.net Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:GYjwsSn8D8bw4UvACrZudgKGtsg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187293 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > Based on what's in iso-transl.el, C-x 8 [ will insert a single quote > > (and similarly C-x 8 { double quotes). > > It does not work here. > Paul added those bindings on May 10th, I believe you mentioned your sources were from May 8th. > > Personally I prefer A-[ and > > A-{ > > Are you using an Alt key separate from your Meta key? I don't have those. Yes. It's very convenient for me since I never used my right-Alt key as Meta anyway. Regards Robert