From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Package initialization Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:54:43 +0200 Message-ID: <87oaj8s9ho.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87twt1dmxu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437303323 7963 80.91.229.3 (19 Jul 2015 10:55:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Helmut Eller , emacs-devel To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 19 12:55:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGmFe-0002Hd-0X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:55:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51047 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGmFd-0002j4-6C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:55:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41682) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGmFQ-0002gu-NH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:55:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGmFP-0003J3-Tm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:55:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49166) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGmFL-0002zV-7E; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34751 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGmFK-0003qZ-Hh; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2BE40E0E09; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:54:43 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (bruce connor am's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:35:59 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187985 Archived-At: writes: >> So you are saying this is good style? And how is this supposed to offer >> the option that people like me don't want to have the keybinding without >> setting it explicitly in .emacs. > > If it's a keybind on a specific mode, and if it doesn't conflict with the > keys for that mode, then it's low-impact enough that it's alright. > > It's safe to assume that a user who installs SLIME would like a convenient > way to start SLIME from lisp-mode. The cases where that's not true are > unlikely to be bothered by an extra keybind. The cases that are bothered > (because it conflicts with some personal keybind), will have to add a line > to their init file (either to prevent activation of your package or to fix > the conflict). Any personal keybinding would override an autoloaded keymap entry anyway since personal keybindings don't just magically establish themselves without writing anything in an initialization file. -- David Kastrup