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From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Clarification on hooks and custom-set-variables
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 09:17:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oaimdx16.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)

Hi all,

this is related to AUCTeX bug#21188.  The problem is this: A user who
uses AUCTeX from ELPA customized `LaTeX-mode-hook' so that

  (custom-set-variables
   '(LaTeX-mode-hook '(flyspell-mode LaTeX-math-mode turn-on-reftex)))

is in his ~/.emacs.  I can reproduce the problem with this being the
only contents of ~/.emacs.

Now when he starts emacs, the value of `LaTeX-mode-hook' will be
'(LaTeX-preview-setup).  Huh, where are the configs gone?

AUCTeX uses `LaTeX-mode-hook' internally, too.  auctex-autoloads.el adds
the preview setup function

  (add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook #'LaTeX-preview-setup)

which in turn does

  (remove-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook #'LaTeX-preview-setup)
  (add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook #'preview-mode-setup)

But `add-hook' / `remove-hook' should be harmless, and there's no place
where `LaTeX-mode-hook' would be set.

If we add a t NOW flag to the customization, it works.  After startup,
`LaTeX-mode-hook' is the customized value plus `LaTeX-preview-setup'.

The `custom-set-variables' docs don't tell me when customizations are
applied when NOW is omitted or nil.  I guess, it'll be done just when
the corresponding defcustom form is evaluated, right?

So a shot in the blue would be:

  1. Emacs starts and stores the customization value for later
     application since `LaTeX-mode-hook' isn't defined yet.
  2. `package-initialize' runs which loads auctex-autoloads.el which
     adds `LaTeX-preview-setup' to `LaTeX-mode-hook'.
  3. Eventually, latex.el gets loaded and evals the (defcustom
     LaTeX-mode-hook nil) form.  Now customization should kick in but
     maybe it skips applying the customized value because the current
     value '(LaTeX-preview-setup) differs from the default value?

Does that make sense?  Or why does the customized value get lost?  And
most importantly, how to I fix that?

Bye,
Tassilo



             reply	other threads:[~2015-08-05  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-05  7:17 Tassilo Horn [this message]
2015-08-07 15:11 ` Clarification on hooks and custom-set-variables Stefan Monnier
2015-08-07 15:40   ` Tassilo Horn

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