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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Question on pcase
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:14:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oafp659p.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837fmdzpf2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:26:41 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> > Possible - maybe.  Useful: IMHO no.  `pcase' is simple and easy to
> > learn.
>
> Evidently, at least one developer found it daunting.

I found it daunting too before I tried to learn it. 

> > It just looks a bit frightening and strange at first.  I would
> > rather improve documentation or write an easy intro than invite
> > people to avoid learning an excellent tool.
>
> How about doing both?  Maybe that will prompt people to learn about
> pcase rather than hate it and stay away of it?

Sure.  Let me think about what would make sense.  I think we should
first write some simple guide to understand pcase.  If anything more is
needed then, ok, let's see what this is.  For now, the "demystify" thing
is the best thing I can offer for someone who doesn't want to learn it.

The problem here is that the semantic of `pcase' is so many-sided.  You
can use it like `let'.  You can use it like `cond'.  You can use it like
`case'.  You can use it like `destructuring-bind'.  All combined, and
more.  So there obviously must be a quite a bit of stuff to learn and
remember about pcase, and you have to practise it a bit.


Michael.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-23 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-22 14:46 Question on pcase Oleh Krehel
2015-10-22 21:19 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-23  6:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-23 11:58     ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-23 12:23       ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-23 12:42         ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-23 13:07           ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-23 13:26             ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-23 13:59               ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-27 23:50                 ` Johan Bockgård
2015-10-30  1:33                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-23 14:23               ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-23 12:17     ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-23 12:22       ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-23 13:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-23 14:14         ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2015-10-23 14:41           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-23 18:38             ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-23 18:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-23 19:59               ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-23 21:01                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-23 20:23               ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-23 20:39                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-24 11:37                   ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-24  9:01               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-24 12:58                 ` Stephen Berman
2015-10-24 17:47                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-24 19:10                     ` Stephen Berman
2015-10-24 19:28                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-25  0:00                         ` pcase docstring tweaks (was: Question on pcase) Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-27 14:54                           ` pcase docstring tweaks Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-27 18:57                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-10-27 20:14                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-28  3:15                             ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-28 17:08                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-24 17:00                 ` Question on pcase Drew Adams
2015-10-24 17:22                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-24 17:36                     ` Drew Adams
2015-10-24 20:03                     ` Johan Bockgård
2015-10-24 23:11                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-26 15:55               ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-26 16:07                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-27  8:42                   ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-26 16:20                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-27  8:42                   ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-27 14:27                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-27 14:47                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-28 18:05                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-29  9:44                           ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-30  1:11                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-26 16:35                 ` Andreas Schwab

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