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From: Robert Cochran <robert-emacs@cochranmail.com>
To: "Clément Pit--Claudel" <clement.pit@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Development suggestions from an ENSIME developer
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 15:48:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87oa5pnvam.fsf@cochranmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46f603db-cf91-495d-d330-87b3538b7872@gmail.com> ("Clément Pit--Claudel"'s message of "Wed, 20 Jul 2016 10:02:03 -0400")

Clément Pit--Claudel <clement.pit@gmail.com> writes:

> I for one would welcome a code of conduct :) These things tend to send
> an explicit positive message, and there are virtually no downsides to
> having one.

I disagree.

When I think 'Code of Conduct', I inevitably think of the Social Justice
Warriors. I think very lowly of the SJWs, and I'm always set on edge, at
least a little, when I see that a project has adopted a CoC. That tends
to be an indicator that the SJWs have infected a project.

See http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6918 for a larger picture. Let me leave
you with this excerpt to set the stage (slightly adjusted to better fit
ASCII):

> Rosario tagged his Twitter report "Social Justice in action!" He knows
> who these people are: SJWs, "Social Justice Warriors". And, unless you
> have been living under a rock, so do you. These are the people – the
> political and doctrinal tendency, united if in no other way by an
> elaborate shared jargon and a seething hatred of djangoconcardiff’s
> "white straight male", who recently hounded Nobel laureate Tim Hunt out
> of his job with a /fraudulent/ accusation of sexist remarks.

I'd personally advocate for no code at all. "Be an adult, not an
asshole". Anyone that needs common decency rules spelled out for them
is probably not a good candidate for contributing, IMO.

If we must have a code, I'd pick something like the "Code of Merit"
(http://code-of-merit.org/), that makes it explicitly clear we are here
to write software, not to coddle people.

I know that I'm a relative newcomer to the Emacs lists, and that my
opinion isn't going to be as highly esteemed as some, but this issue is
important to me and I feel like I need to make my voice heard.

Thanks,
~Robert Cochran



  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-22 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-20 13:54 Development suggestions from an ENSIME developer Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-20 14:02 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-22 22:48   ` Robert Cochran [this message]
2016-07-23  7:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-23  9:00     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-23 19:52       ` Richard Stallman
2016-07-23 13:50     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-23 20:14     ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-25 18:34       ` Robert Cochran
2016-08-03  6:05   ` John Wiegley
2016-08-06 18:42     ` Alex Dunn
2016-07-20 14:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-20 14:08   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-20 14:12     ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-20 14:23       ` Christian Kruse
2016-07-20 14:41         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-20 14:30 ` Christian Kruse
2016-07-20 14:44   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-20 15:02     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-20 15:07       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-20 15:31         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-07-20 17:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-21 18:40   ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-21 19:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-21 20:22       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-21 21:26         ` Christian Kruse
2016-07-21 22:04         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-07-21 20:23       ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-21 20:50         ` joakim
2016-07-22  6:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-22 10:46           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-22 11:48             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-07-22 13:00               ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-22 13:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-22 14:28                   ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-22 14:45             ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-07-22 13:35           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-22 14:38             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-22 14:56               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-22 15:58                 ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-22 15:47           ` Phillip Lord

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