From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: debbugs tracker builds character Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:07:02 -0400 Message-ID: <87oa5ouf6x.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577D42BB.1020500@cs.ucla.edu> <87oa694rfw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <837fcxlbay.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1d2wg5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83eg75jk5h.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1cb6p0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oa5sa176.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <874m7kmkcm.fsf@gmx.de> <871t2o6t94.fsf@gmx.de> <87wpkf6pup.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87poq6iweb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87shv0uy3w.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469315266 11205 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2016 23:07:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:07:46 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 24 01:07:35 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bR619-0000CB-E1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 01:07:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53987 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bR615-00015W-Gc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:07:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34190) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bR60v-00015P-Rv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:07:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bR60s-0003Xy-KZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:07:21 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51862) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bR60s-0003Xr-DX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:07:18 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bR60o-0008Mm-MA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 01:07:14 +0200 Original-Received: from otwaon234vw-lp140-05-1176444371.dsl.bell.ca ([70.31.29.211]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 01:07:14 +0200 Original-Received: from eric by otwaon234vw-lp140-05-1176444371.dsl.bell.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2016 01:07:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: otwaon234vw-lp140-05-1176444371.dsl.bell.ca User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/HmFe02uA7BHS6ux7WCFJ5HI9JU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206078 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I did this at the package level (rather than the deeper features level) >> just because it seemed cleaner. Using features, you get all the >> individual files of multi-file packages, which seems messy (and prone to >> missing the maintainer). We'd also be offering all the built-in Emacs >> libraries, for which there's no sensible "maintainer", and could end up >> cc'ing people who wrote libraries decades ago. > > Hmm... how 'bout > > (if (bound-and-true-p package--initialized) > (seq-intersection (mapcar #'car package-alist) features) > features) > > then? But the `seq-intersection' call will filter out packages that have been installed (are in package-alist), but not loaded (are not in features). Wouldn't it make more sense to use: (seq-uniq (append features (mapcar #'car package-alist))) Also, what was the outcome of the seq.el pre-loading/autoloading discussion? Are seq-* functions guaranteed to be available? Eric