From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patches for Emacs 25.2 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 11:55:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87oa2ic76c.fsf@gmx.de> References: <877f96t9oc.fsf@gmx.de> <837f96xgp5.fsf@gnu.org> <87zim2rtck.fsf@gmx.de> <834m4axbo2.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476784610 16062 195.159.176.226 (18 Oct 2016 09:56:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 09:56:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 18 11:56:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bwR8O-0002UF-5e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 11:56:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39972 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwR8Q-0008Kg-BE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:56:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57050) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwR7r-0008Ka-FA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:56:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwR7q-0007Fm-Qu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:49386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bwR7l-00079I-Uz; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 05:55:58 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.53.123]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LjquD-1cXQdG3Hgn-00bsdk; Tue, 18 Oct 2016 11:55:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <834m4axbo2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:13:17 +0300") X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:jtNNNI+devXez0kdHCcqoZvQQD2ZzOJAsM6qMDfQBCPjRhTKpA6 /aBhg2pktX3+nwF58ue5D/9wx5bnaHGbbWZkIEbgHVjMR4PbcW08yXf9k2EI5ddEYX3flsg xR4l1l/QAFEnY/xc31etYdpABvwcF1tiwj4zKVilPnvd9ALvGbFmNjNnfSIRUXCqbL18oiD s+mUI7pYN+MalhRDaES5Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:XM6vldi+wQc=:EtZgqVAnTfxAZFX7Oawu0Y 892/y672qZ79PTEjyQO/iBSo3AwnZKD8Q7G+GqI3MjxNkoo6eGR8/fMWj4HwybRtJaE27AGN+ UXubOORlwmhz4eG4meQvKatOZLoOax9SmKXEabLnpQ1WIHlCXToc4umyQVNS2Tgx+vF03mLgv ThjVNEa3V8nqHjiHHOMkdFu7gxqJ3uzeNlOEdxxDAIexHibd0nW9nYFAzXBiBxuzw+vTSz6cq MkVQ1AYB1b0Tr+vpS/cD2KlC91nw17PAUkMXZrH2yROeyeb5jkmPKuTsEoq0BJkaDbE7bu2Iu 1PY1yjFW+VEtcaU6QiDGbvmIGh7uTI1sx6IkDKOXFaa8VwoXOINvOOrtl9b7+xY6uqFSTDnBR kwPPh1lxLOorvT4knfww/ZGD4W1p4ktaKG+gmln7avui3Gi5+PgNYMQfvKLsN4yzN4P144+K+ Gg9FPikzGwLQdIdXkBcQhjtRAY8+ptDMIJNFmrT1WIr8ixnRZlGHtgUkajN4eRyH9Q3jHnWeK 4B4tqMoONtVSSvfiWl4w/kZun6FiJV13aJ6uhZEpyrBqhhBWPN1G+pExkW3WbHzu8R2m9CHu2 mvz/qkCxxVqlpxkgSqvfeILo+oTWx/E5lU9aWXXXcMp6xGSL12sSPQIum8r/mXFP33rcXIVTk a/s3njU+GmFW9SGOoGcWJaggmKJvp+cY3dzsI0vXa1p0FLt+lP9JLi0aHJpbJMHjSgb+vC//G bCPUQsMjy1XLngmYqY64CRC5LsjruwcEf3R4rVBF+7xQogOb1nj8DW5s8BELo6q3Fq8g1pfB X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208399 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> No. But the OP said "As a result, Tramp hangs while connecting to NetBSD >> host." To me, it looks also like a valid reason to add this to Emacs 25.2. > > Can you tell when (in which Emacs version) was this problem > introduced? Well, it started with bug#17295, which set remote $HISTFILE to "/dev/null". Released with Emacs 24.4. Then there were bug reports 19731, 21697 and 23041, which reported a bash bug when setting this. So the new defcustom `tramp-histfile-override' was introduced in Emacs 25.1. With bug#20446, Glenn reported a new problem with the previous fix. His bash history was nuked. So I've committed another fix, also for Emacs 25.1. And now we have bug#24478, also purely due to a remote bash. Given this history, a fix shall go to Emacs 25.2. And I pray, that this will be the final fix. Likely it won't help, I'm a nonbeliever. > Thanks. Best regards, Michael.