From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: official Emacs Docker image Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:06:40 +0000 Message-ID: <87o9yrcukf.fsf@linaro.org> References: <831tbxn5id.fsf@gnu.org> <87oaf1bvsb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87mvukq7gd.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <877fcyg5ah.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87h9c0b6bd.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878txa9zvx.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1485601670 31544 195.159.176.226 (28 Jan 2017 11:07:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:07:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: mu4e 0.9.19; emacs 25.1.91.4 Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 28 12:07:43 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cXQqm-0005hK-Jv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 12:07:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51291 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cXQqp-0007D8-PO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 06:07:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57689) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cXQqE-00075m-Gx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 06:06:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cXQqB-0003Xp-Cp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 06:06:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]:36443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cXQqB-0003XY-4y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 06:06:43 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id c85so150261393wmi.1 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 03:06:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linaro.org; s=google; h=references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5cnwmNL5BDXYltz/zPxj6a8i0anUL46MnW/pt3KNOwU=; b=R2RrsQE0cRffTKDumeoHNCuoK4/fw/eXYDVXaEeMlan2i47I06k0XOGoZQ28dLls4v 1e7lKlUbHM/7EMb7ztKtm2ANWoFmduOjVmlgNmsuzY8SPtlBMWBr3zithvoSuUAnO+GK IT5Uq4f6fvJ4WGOqfVPeuDPBGTtgjED2lvy4A= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5cnwmNL5BDXYltz/zPxj6a8i0anUL46MnW/pt3KNOwU=; b=SwBxMnXiJNewP922EwJaQOajcOY6xkromtQTLVGIB606+FLzP5nD/51sCgeQUPHEeq m+YAMYd9ESE4gqIAreDcK+FN95NU46URcP6++NDyPB216cTImt+JYCpHw7NkffSFdCT9 0YMYp5yU3hs1SohaapAjglPfYa3JDY2XkN+Gm95J7oAyFosoegyfs1Y0mojJqmdgw7cq qESbgFTGuVEaXx7Fj96dFhPBcMpNOLw02DxxpJEDq3PWY1rukvFED+Sjmp81EbRIG89l OvjnZQreoVpGDZ10lBLysjAPBNEDX1reBI1ehfndicwjLYudWgouxBGOLJ2GqJt2IWZK oEbA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJU3jaeUrtdcGejM/57E8ZRpRUdLOEHq0HoRagqvJ3YFDRxbaTy5stns4QSZ3ckr/jw X-Received: by 10.28.185.193 with SMTP id j184mr7221934wmf.86.1485601602048; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 03:06:42 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zen.linaro.local ([81.128.185.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z134sm8266137wmc.20.2017.01.28.03.06.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 28 Jan 2017 03:06:40 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zen (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zen.linaro.local (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C2D63E0131; Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:06:40 +0000 (GMT) In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c09::234 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:211686 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: >>>>>> Richard Stallman writes: > >>> The final "image" as they call it will be an Emacs binary, built on that >>> base, that users can download and directly run from any of the major >>> operating systems (Mac OS X, Windows, any flavor of GNU/Linux). > >> At this point, I am confused, because the statements seem to conflict. > >> Would the "Docker image" of Emacs _include_ the base system? Or would it be >> an executable Emacs package that could be installed straight _on top of_ >> that base system? > > I see now that I was unclear: A Docker image is a self-contained tarball > containing a GNU/Linux kernel, necessary system software, and the final Emacs > executable that was built by the image recipe. Just a minor correction, Docker images do not contain kernels. They are purely a user-space construct. They are built to use the Linux kernel ABI and are virtualised to the extent they have their own pid/network/filesystem namespaces. > The Docker image contents, thus, can be entirely free software. Executing the > image on some platforms (such as Windows) may use proprietary software to > perform the execution (for example, VM provisioning software). -- Alex Bennée