From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Please explain the FSF copyright assignment thing Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:42:04 +0200 Message-ID: <87o9so86pf.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <87shi08bx5.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499975003 2354 195.159.176.226 (13 Jul 2017 19:43:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:43:23 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 13 21:43:19 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dVk13-0008Se-JM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:43:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33762 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVk19-0005M6-4p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:43:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43870) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVk0D-0005LD-UM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:42:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVk09-0000KN-2U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:42:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=34623 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dVk08-0000K0-S4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:42:16 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dVjzz-000594-35 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:42:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:M8haYfnXY4ftjuwYeaievlv6m8k= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216610 Archived-At: John Yates writes: > Perhaps you should ask why Richard decided that Magit, among all > of the many non-FSF copyright assigned packages that emacs users > recommend to one another, was so intolerable as to justify suggesting > mounting a - to my mind doomed - competing project. It was not as if > all of those recommendations are for some proprietary or non-GPL-V3+ > package. You are taking this the wrong way: Richard's request is a compliment, not an attack. If org-mode were not distributed with Emacs, I'm sure Richard would be requesting the same about that package. > Happily the community has rallied to Jonas' cause and will now try to > bring Magit into the FSF fold. What "cause" is that? Richard wants Magit into Emacs core, which Jonas agrees with (with some caveats, some of them unfounded, IMHO). *If* that goal cannot be accomplished, Richard's alternative is to develop a new package for the same purpose. I can't see why Jonas or anyone else could be offended by someone starting a competing project. Really, guys, you are making a drama out of nothing. BTW, I'm convinced that it is possible to create a new, original Git frontend that improves upon Magit on a significant way. That said, Magit is good enough.