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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: andreyorst@gmail.com, spacibba@aol.com, 37774@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#37774: 27.0.50; new :extend attribute broke visuals of all themes and other packages
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:46:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8yg5v80.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y2xkcyu9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:46:54 +0300")

>> 1. Backward-compatibility problem:
>>
>> I had to spend significant time investigating why the region face broke
>> recently, and discovered that customized faces in custom-set-faces need
>> to be updated.
>
> I'm not sure I understand: the region face is defined to be extended
> beyond EOL.  How does custom-set-faces enter this picture, and why did
> you need to do anything about the customized faces?

The region face customized long ago in the init file
has no ':extend t' face attribute, e.g.

(custom-set-faces
 '(region ((((class color) (background light)) (:background "gray90"))))

>> Soon I tired fixing their customizations one by one manually,
>
> Which other faces needed to be "fixed", how, and why?

All diff faces and faces that have a distinct background color
like 'comint-highlight-input' (should extend to window edge
to help locating visually the command line in shell buffers),
'org-block' (because it highlights code blocks), 'xref-file-header'
for the same reason as diff faces, i.e. faces that highlights blocks.

> Why are you talking only about the colors?  face extension is not only
> about colors, it's about other attributes as well: underline,
> strike-through, box, etc.  You list underline with foreground color,
> but they are not the same as color, especially not when face extension
> is concerned.  They actually behave more like background colors.

Yes, this new feature is useful for all these face attributes
to extend them to EOL.  The only exception is background colors.

All complaints are only about extending background colors to EOL.
So the change could apply to all face attributes except background colors.

Only other attributes should be extended to EOL, because when such face
attributes like underline and strike-through are displayed over
an empty space beyond EOL, this looks ugly.

> And then there are faces with both foreground and background colors.

Actually the distinction is not so simple: even some background colors
need to extend to EOL, such as when used in combination with the 'box'
face attributes, because when a button takes two lines, extending
the button box face to the window edge looks ugly.

>> As I see the change was meant to fix only the problem that relates to
>> faces with distinct foreground, because indeed underlines extended
>> to the window edge look very ugly.  So the change should affect
>> only faces with distinct foreground.
>
> That wasn't the intent.  the intent was explicitly to cause the change
> in background color and underline/strikethough/etc. attributes--those
> which show in the face extension.  Foreground color doesn't show in
> face extension.
>
>> This screenshot demonstrates how badly broken these blocks are now
>> in diff-mode that it makes harder to read diffs:
>
> I'm sorry, but I don't see why it is broken or hard to read.

Because there is no distinctive rectangular header anymore,
and no diff hunk blocks.

>> Ideally to be more nice-looking, background colors in such faces should be
>> extended to the column defined e.g. by display-fill-column-indicator-column.
>
> That would be ugly if the line's text extends beyond the fill-column,
> no?  Also, it would look even uglier with variable-pitch fonts.

Extending to the fill-column could be an optional feature.
It won't work with variable-pitch fonts the same way as
filling to fill-column doesn't work with variable-pitch fonts.
But if some line's text will extend beyond the fill-column
with fixed-pitch fonts, this even could help to find long lines
(like in whitespace-mode).





  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-16 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-16  7:00 bug#37774: 27.0.50; new :extend attribute broke visuals of all themes and other packages Andrey Orst
2019-10-16  7:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16  8:12   ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 11:05     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 14:20       ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-16 16:25         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16  8:59   ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-16  9:17     ` martin rudalics
2019-10-16 11:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 11:38       ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-10-16 12:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 11:10   ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-16 11:17     ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 11:41       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 12:08         ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 13:05           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 11:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 13:18       ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-16 13:33         ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 14:21           ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-16 17:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 18:13           ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 18:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 19:05             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-17 20:38               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-17 11:36           ` Michael Albinus
2019-10-17 12:38             ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-17 13:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 16:18               ` Michael Albinus
2019-10-17 16:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 17:27     ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 18:07       ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 18:18         ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 18:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 19:52             ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 20:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 19:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 20:14               ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-17  6:18                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17  8:52                   ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17  8:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17  9:20                       ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17 12:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 13:40                           ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17 14:02                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 14:13                               ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17 14:38                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 14:02                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 16:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 16:46                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 17:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17  8:25                 ` martin rudalics
2019-10-17 14:08                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 16:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 16:50                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 17:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-18 14:25                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-20 20:07                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-21  6:10                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-23 12:47                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-23 15:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-23 16:12                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-23 18:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-23 20:28                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-24 14:56                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-24 17:04                                         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-10-17 22:22                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-18  5:28                     ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-18  6:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 20:53                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-20  6:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-20 15:42                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-20 16:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-21 21:29                         ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-18  8:25                     ` martin rudalics
2019-10-18 12:41                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-18 13:04                       ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-17 13:56                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-17 16:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17 13:54             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-16 18:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 19:46         ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2019-10-16 20:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 20:23             ` Juri Linkov
2019-10-16 20:37               ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-17  6:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-17  6:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-16 20:29             ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-17 14:12               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-16 20:23           ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-10-16 11:33 ` Andrey Orst
2019-10-16 15:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-31 16:06 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2019-10-31 16:48   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-06 16:26     ` Jonas Bernoulli
2019-11-06 17:06       ` martin rudalics
2019-11-07 13:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 15:41           ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-11-07 17:10             ` martin rudalics
2019-11-07 21:57               ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-11-08  9:20                 ` martin rudalics
2019-11-08 10:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 18:26                     ` martin rudalics
2019-11-08 19:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 11:39                   ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-11-08 18:27                     ` martin rudalics
2019-12-05 16:48                   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-05 18:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-05 19:05                       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-05 19:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-05 18:22                     ` Ergus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2019-12-05 18:47                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-07 13:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-11 10:52         ` Jonas Bernoulli
2019-11-11 19:03           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2019-11-14 11:33             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 14:14               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-14 14:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-14 22:42                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-15  8:08                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-15 23:50                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-16  8:09                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-16  8:17                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-23 23:20             ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-24 16:14               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-25 23:45                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-26 17:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-25  0:29               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-25 16:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-25 23:50                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-26 17:43                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02  0:05                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-02 16:21                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03  0:01                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-03 16:21                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-05  1:44                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-05 15:47                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06 15:44                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-06 16:18                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06 16:58                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-06 17:31                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07  1:06                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-07  7:53                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07 17:06                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-07 17:53                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07 18:55                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-07 19:14                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-08  0:42                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-08  3:32                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-08 10:39                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-08 15:50                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-08 21:20                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-09 12:59                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09 14:07                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-09 14:42                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09 15:24                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-09 15:42                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-10  0:20                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-10 15:57                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-11 23:02                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-12  4:36                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-12 23:44                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-13  7:03                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-27 21:30                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-27 23:34                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-11-28 15:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-28 15:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-30 11:35                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02  0:07                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-31 17:29   ` Dmitry Gutov

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