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From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why fido, icycles, ido, icomplete
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:39:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8xoeik4.fsf@telefonica.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 877e4c1x3r.fsf@gmail.com

João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com> writes:

> Now, I wish I could just put 'flex' (and many other things) in
> ido-mode.

Ido has a `flex' completion style. Maybe it is a different one?

> Actually the matter is much more complicated.  Ido mode is a completely
> separate completion system that doesn't respect Emacs completion
> interfaces (completion-in-region-functions,
> completion-at-point-functions, completion-styles, etc etc etc ).

Should it? This is like the recent discussion about implementing new
commands on VC: insisting on a common interface hampers diversity and
innovation. We must accept that different tools sometimes deserve
specific user interfaces.

> This
> means it doesn't work nicely for M-x, C-h f, and many many other
> completion situations.

Ido works nicely here for those cases with just a few lines on my .emacs
and an extra package installed (ido-hacks).

[snip]

> I was a heavy Ido addict for many years because it has the best
> interface, hands down, much better than Ivy, or Helm, IMO of course.  I
> also know many people in my company that swear by it.  But the
> implementation was impossibly hard to hack on.

Ido here has a customized look (courtesy of ido-grid-mode.el), a
customized completion scheme (flx-ido) and some more bells and whistles.
This indicates to me that ido is more hackable than your message
implies. I'm not denying that it could be much better on that regard,
though.

[snip]




  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-06 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20191106212018.cnddqzlo5rpdhi6s.ref@Ergus>
2019-11-06 21:20 ` Why fido, icycles, ido, icomplete Ergus
2019-11-06 21:30   ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-11-06 22:27     ` Ergus
2019-11-06 22:03   ` João Távora
2019-11-06 22:39     ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2019-11-06 22:57       ` João Távora
2019-11-06 23:07         ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-07  0:36           ` João Távora
2019-11-07  1:07             ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-07  1:21               ` Ergus
2019-11-07  1:51                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-07 10:09               ` João Távora
2019-11-07 18:50                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-06 23:21     ` Ergus
2019-11-06 23:59       ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-07  0:47         ` Ergus
2019-11-07  2:20           ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-07  4:59             ` Ergus
2019-11-07 18:26               ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-07 14:09             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-07 20:35               ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-07 21:11                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-07 22:18                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-07 22:30                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-11-07 22:34                     ` João Távora
2019-11-07  0:27       ` João Távora
2019-11-07  1:09         ` Ergus
2019-11-07 10:39           ` João Távora
2019-11-07 15:00             ` Ergus
2019-11-08 17:54     ` Filipp Gunbin
2019-11-08 18:10       ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-11-08 18:45       ` Nicolas Semrau
2019-11-08 19:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 21:31         ` Juanma Barranquero
2019-11-08 22:54           ` João Távora
2019-11-08 23:11             ` Ergus

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