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From: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 41531@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	andreyk.mad@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: bug#41531: 27.0.91; Better handle asynchronous eldoc backends
Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 13:03:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8oui2xn.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k0zjvi4c.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 04 Jul 2020 10:45:07 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> -(defun eldoc-message (&optional string)
>> +(make-obsolete
>> + 'eldoc-message "use `eldoc-documentation-functions' instead." "1.1.0")
>
> Isn't the version part of the obsolete message supposed to tell the
> version of Emacs?

Stuck with "1.1.0", because of the GNU ELPA criterion.  But maybe the
string could be "1.1.0-elpa" or something like that.

> The change to the number of arguments of the functions in the
> eldoc-documentation-functions hook is backward-incompatible, isn't it?
> I see you've changed the relevant functions in our sources, but what
> about 3rd-party packages?

Answered this already.

> Also, the doc string of this hook needs clarification regarding the
> arguments: it first says that CALLBACK is the only mandatory argument
> to the hook functions, but then, out of the blue, appear additional
> arguments DOCSTRING and a list of key-value pairs.  Confusing.

Changed that paragraph to

   To call the CALLBACK function, the hook function must pass it an
   obligatory argument DOCSTRING, a string containing the
   documentation, followed by an optional list of keyword-value
   pairs of the form (:KEY VALUE :KEY2 VALUE2...).  KEY can be:

The situation is very similar to Flymake's flymake-diagnostic-functions.
If you still find this docstring confusing, maybe I should copy that
docstring's structure.

> The doc strings have some words in UK English spelling "(e.g.,
> "honour"), please fix that.  Also, please make sure comments all start
> with a capital letter, end with a period, and comprise full English
> sentences.

I fixed all I could find, but is this a a hard rule?  I like to break it
once in a while:

    ;; We have to foo bar separately ...
    (foo bar)
    ;; ... because the bazness might be too quuxy.
    (if (quux) (foo baz))

I ended up not doing that this time, though.

> The doc string of eldoc-documentation-compose doesn't say a word about
> the function's argument.

I fixed that by creating a helper eldoc--documentation-compose-1 that
both eldoc-documentation-compose and eldoc-documentation-compose-eagerly
call.  I describe the arg in the helper.

> This doc string doesn't explain the use of the timer, it explains the
> reason for its existence.  It should also describe the use:

See the new version below.  I think it is sufficient.  Be aware this is
an internal variable, we don't even let the user customize the time (we
could though, but I think it's overcomplicating, for now).

    (defvar eldoc--enthusiasm-curbing-timer nil
      "Timer used by the `eldoc-documentation-enthusiast' strategy.
    When a doc string is encountered, it must endure a certain amount
    of time unchallenged until it is displayed to the user.  This
    prevents blinking if a lower priority docstring comes in shortly
    before a higher priority one.")

> Last, but not least: the "async" part of the branch's name hints on
> some advanced and extremely useful functionality that these changes
> are supposed to allow, but I see no mention of that in NEWS and in the
> manual bits.  What did I miss?

I reworded it, caught a bug, and mentioned
eldoc-echo-area-use-multiline-p.  Let me know it if you're missing
anything.

João

PS: Actually a proper section for Eldoc in the Emacs manual is probably
missing, but I don't have time to work on it straight away.  Or at least
I think the fix should go in first.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-05 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-25 17:04 bug#41531: 27.0.91; Better handle asynchronous eldoc backends João Távora
2020-05-25 23:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26  1:21   ` João Távora
2020-05-26 13:57     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26 16:03       ` João Távora
2020-05-26 19:14         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26 20:00           ` João Távora
2020-05-27 21:14             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-27 22:13               ` João Távora
2020-05-27 23:35                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-27 23:57                   ` João Távora
2020-05-26  2:38   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-26 11:22     ` João Távora
2020-05-26 14:53       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-26 15:19         ` João Távora
2020-05-26 15:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-26 16:26             ` João Távora
2020-05-26 17:39               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-26 18:49                 ` João Távora
2020-06-03  2:45                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-03 18:07                     ` João Távora
2020-06-03 20:22                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-03 20:36                         ` João Távora
2020-06-03 21:21                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-05 11:26                             ` João Távora
2020-06-03 21:28                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-06  1:57         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26 13:32     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-26 16:56       ` João Távora
2020-06-03 18:56 ` bug#41531: 28.0.50; proper Eldoc async support João Távora
2020-06-04 16:20   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-06-04 18:22     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-04 19:00       ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-06-05 22:53         ` João Távora
2020-06-05 11:00     ` João Távora
2020-06-05 17:50       ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-06-05 23:25         ` João Távora
2020-06-05 23:28         ` João Távora
2020-06-11 11:11       ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-06-30 11:31 ` bug#41531: 27.0.91; Better handle asynchronous eldoc backends João Távora
2020-07-04  7:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-04  9:21     ` João Távora
2020-07-04  9:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-04  9:37         ` João Távora
2020-07-04  9:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-04 11:00     ` João Távora
2020-07-04 21:06       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-04 23:12         ` João Távora
2020-07-07  0:43           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 10:58             ` João Távora
2020-07-07 14:18               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 14:34                 ` João Távora
2020-07-05 12:03     ` João Távora [this message]
2020-07-05 15:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-05 15:13       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-04 10:04   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-04 11:48     ` João Távora
2020-07-04 21:27       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-04 21:30         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-04 23:07         ` João Távora
2020-07-07  3:01           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 10:56             ` João Távora
2020-07-07 12:23               ` João Távora
2020-07-07 13:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-07 14:24                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 16:07                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-07 23:11                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-08  3:58                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-08 11:20                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-08 13:25                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-08 13:41                             ` João Távora
2020-07-08 14:21                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-08 15:12                               ` João Távora
2020-07-08 18:32                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-08 19:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-07 14:45                 ` João Távora
2020-07-07 14:40               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 22:24               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 22:49                 ` João Távora
2020-07-07 23:00                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 23:24                     ` João Távora
2020-07-07 23:42                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-07 23:46                         ` João Távora
2020-07-08  0:10                           ` Dmitry Gutov

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