From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Amin Bandali Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lightweight, C-only implementation of Emacs Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:56:10 -0400 Organization: GNU Message-ID: <87o8nr2sit.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87tuxj4ct5.fsf@gnu.org> <6b76f688-0cd7-fd17-e980-b5945b42a21b@grinta.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24764"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniele Nicolodi Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 04 01:56:46 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k2kJy-0006Jt-KE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 01:56:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40504 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k2kJx-00066X-Mo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:56:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52502) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k2kJT-0005ej-Uh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:56:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52115) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k2kJS-0002wh-Lt; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:56:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [2607:fea8:3fdf:f688::2] (port=46454 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k2kJP-0007y8-Qs; Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:56:12 -0400 Mail-Followup-To: Daniele Nicolodi , emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <6b76f688-0cd7-fd17-e980-b5945b42a21b@grinta.net> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253424 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Daniele Nicolodi writes: > On 03/08/2020 15:52, Amin Bandali wrote: [...] > > "I do not recommend its use" from an author abut the free software they > wrote has many possible meanings. Among those: "use it but please don't > bother me if it breaks and eats your data", "I know it has (serious) > flaws that I don't want even think about", "I am very tired of > supporting this piece of software, but I continue doing so for spirit of > service toward those (hopefully few) that still depend on it. Please > stop using it so I can enjoy doing something else". > > Of course no one can forbid you to use the software the author himself > deprecated, but I think it would be nice to the author to follow their > recommendation and look for alternatives, or pick up or share the burden > of maintaining it. > > I don't know if any of this applies to Zile, but maybe inquiring, > preferably in private, with the author and maintainer would be a good > idea before putting it in a list of suggested software (I admit I > haven't looked at the list debated here, thus I don't know if this applies). > > Cheers, > Dan Right, I'd generally agree. I just wanted to clarify that we are not under any obligation to (blindly) obey recommendations about using a certain piece of free software, not in the way noloader makes it sound like we must. But of course it's often a good idea to consider these recommendations, especially when they come from the author/maintainer of the software in question. In the specific case of Zile, having now looked through the issue referenced earlier, , I see the maintainer mentioning that "Zile still has users, so I maintain it for them", which is great news :-). Earlier they mention that they will not be adding new features at the time being, but will continue to fix bugs. Which is certainly not what I'd have guessed if I'd only read noloader's messages of heavily questioning/discouraging any use of Zile. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJEBAEBCAAuFiEEObM8jZRIDS3cwqSYi0Sgzce5VvIFAl8opBoQHGJhbmRhbGlA Z251Lm9yZwAKCRCLRKDNx7lW8vChD/9lrl3AkZiMez2IfWDd6Ibo1bDi20VWD1Uv e9toDOA0KEXjrbmd1n46c4ywgoDlPpAM4jRQ7Nrx4Qg+2rFXBY7bOlmvSsF3VVr2 iTfkFDfYPez3seibszcmMUQFX6v715duZl51Ua+I7xQr8pUwG8ApfCtQ6/HWa/9b 1zNK5B1606V5BnO4pvI/majOPv7pD9sMVhU/nlcHkHEJgWkCm8n835lN8gcVMhR5 liHB9SZinQ2DHkEgWiSWLuS0cyHZOal2y7ZMNSthk3M2SInf9peBEVDdYsyR0euM IH1/Y8OoOz6jp2wvJwa5ivhJ3v4rtDHgKVvGkhi3HkpjZArJJMjK8JHGLOP759qb oZ0lizXc/o4DPFxHYgv957ccyjwNgDA7lYk4/Cfv8msTvWQApDv2fKm1flOAkenf up9X4sOHui8CBbtUn3Pi2yjekZuj+O1ANHf0Gn4kStsjwCjj6Mg1UgN0VYhNR3kp 6PTwDt7xG2iymcaWMYZKyC5Lzp5dHMMgf0/WO24VpnbeobpL4jNHveP9Om8Nz77a 0HbkXLF1IRWUvcOFRMcMy0cBK8UI26iCcAFXi/KiJQA+MvGLTQTpjKIzjzjxyas6 L00HfeXJaqbXQ7gpY66l+8753O5Okc3vp6GSvGD7j6P9KpOgh7gioeZCKswETpTn ctUqreiJrA== =Lp8q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--