all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Amin Bandali <bandali@gnu.org>
To: Daniele Nicolodi <daniele@grinta.net>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lightweight, C-only implementation of Emacs
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2020 19:56:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8nr2sit.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b76f688-0cd7-fd17-e980-b5945b42a21b@grinta.net>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1981 bytes --]

Daniele Nicolodi writes:

> On 03/08/2020 15:52, Amin Bandali wrote:
[...]
>
> "I do not recommend its use" from an author abut the free software they
> wrote has many possible meanings. Among those: "use it but please don't
> bother me if it breaks and eats your data", "I know it has (serious)
> flaws that I don't want even think about", "I am very tired of
> supporting this piece of software, but I continue doing so for spirit of
> service toward those (hopefully few) that still depend on it. Please
> stop using it so I can enjoy doing something else".
>
> Of course no one can forbid you to use the software the author himself
> deprecated, but I think it would be nice to the author to follow their
> recommendation and look for alternatives, or pick up or share the burden
> of maintaining it.
>
> I don't know if any of this applies to Zile, but maybe inquiring,
> preferably in private, with the author and maintainer would be a good
> idea before putting it in a list of suggested software (I admit I
> haven't looked at the list debated here, thus I don't know if this applies).
>
> Cheers,
> Dan

Right, I'd generally agree.  I just wanted to clarify that we are not
under any obligation to (blindly) obey recommendations about using a
certain piece of free software, not in the way noloader makes it sound
like we must.  But of course it's often a good idea to consider these
recommendations, especially when they come from the author/maintainer of
the software in question.

In the specific case of Zile, having now looked through the issue
referenced earlier, <https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?58880>, I see the
maintainer mentioning that "Zile still has users, so I maintain it for
them", which is great news :-).  Earlier they mention that they will not
be adding new features at the time being, but will continue to fix bugs.
Which is certainly not what I'd have guessed if I'd only read noloader's
messages of heavily questioning/discouraging any use of Zile.

[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 857 bytes --]

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-03 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-18  1:26 Lightweight, C-only implementation of Emacs Jeffrey Walton
2019-08-18  3:16 ` Bob Newell
2019-08-18  3:21 ` Noam Postavsky
2019-08-18  7:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-08-19  5:36 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-03 18:38   ` Jeffrey Walton
2020-08-03 19:37     ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-03 19:42       ` Jeffrey Walton
2020-08-03 19:56         ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-03 19:58           ` Jeffrey Walton
2020-08-03 21:32             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-03 21:55               ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-08-03 21:52             ` Amin Bandali
2020-08-03 22:31               ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-08-03 23:56                 ` Amin Bandali [this message]
2020-08-04  1:24                   ` Daniele Nicolodi
2020-08-03 21:32           ` andres.ramirez
2020-08-07  8:38             ` Ergus
2019-08-21 22:58 ` chad
2019-09-21 15:01   ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87o8nr2sit.fsf@gnu.org \
    --to=bandali@gnu.org \
    --cc=daniele@grinta.net \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.