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Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:33:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83o8mjnf5n.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 06 Sep 2020 17:39:00 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:187356 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I don't see how using "C-h v" in that case is a reasonable use case, > since the documentation is displayed right below the name of the > option. FWIW, the *Help* buffer has a few perks over the *Customize* buffer: - it contains a link to the variable's definition, - it displays the variable's original value, - it displays the option's :version property, as well as the estimated release that introduced it, - symbols mentioned in the docstring are buttonized (e.g. Info-refill-paragraphs in Info-hide-note-references's docstring). Not that those features couldn't be added to the *Customize* buffer in principle; as things stand though, I could see myself wanting to jump from the *Customize* buffer to the *Help* buffer for any of these reasons, and it'd be nice if "C-h v RET" did the right thing.