From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: carlos@redhat.com, 43389@debbugs.gnu.org, dj@redhat.com
Subject: bug#43389: 28.0.50; Emacs memory leaks
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 17:33:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8jwj646.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r1osq96c.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 17 Nov 2020 17:45:15 +0200")
* Eli Zaretskii:
>> There is an issue with reusing posix_memalign allocations. On my system
>> (running Emacs 27.1 as supplied by Fedora 32), I only see such
>> allocations as the backing storage for the glib (sic) slab allocator.
>
> (By "backing storage" you mean malloc calls that request large chunks
> so that malloc obtains the memory from mmap? Or do you mean something
> else?)
Larger chunks that are split up by the glib allocator. Whether they are
allocated by mmap is unclear.
> Are the problems with posix_memalign also relevant to calls to
> aligned_alloc? Emacs calls the latter _a_lot_, see lisp_align_malloc.
Ahh. I don't see many such calls, even during heavy Gnus usage. But
opening really large groups triggers such calls.
aligned_alloc is equally problematic. I don't know if the Emacs
allocation pattern triggers the pathological behavior.
I seem to suffer from the problem as well. glibc malloc currently maintains
more than 200 MiB of unused memory:
<size from="1065345" to="153025249" total="226688532" count="20"/>
<total type="fast" count="0" size="0"/>
<total type="rest" count="3802" size="238948201"/>
Total RSS is 1 GiB, but even 1 GiB minus 200 MiB would be excessive.
It's possible to generate such statistics using GDB, by calling the
malloc_info function.
My Emacs process does not look like it suffered from the aligned_alloc
issue. It would leave behind many smaller, unused allocations, not such
large ones.
>> It gets exercised mostly when creating UI elements, as far as I can
>> tell.
>
> I guess your build uses GTK as the toolkit?
I think so:
GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.24.21, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2020-08-20
>> The other issue we have is that thread counts has exceeded in recent
>> times more than system memory, and glibc basically scales RSS overhead
>> with thread count, not memory. A use of libgomp suggests that many
>> threads might indeed be spawned. If their lifetimes overlap, it would
>> not be unheard of to end up with some RSS overhead in the order of
>> peak-usage-per-thread times 8 times the number of hardware threads
>> supported by the system. Setting MALLOC_ARENA_MAX to a small value
>> counteracts that, so it's very simple to experiment with it if you have
>> a working reproducer.
>
> "Small value" being something like 2?
Yes, that would be a good start. But my Emacs process isn't affected by
this, so this setting wouldn't help there.
Thanks,
Florian
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2020-09-14 0:43 bug#43389: 28.0.50; Emacs memory leaks Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-14 19:09 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-15 0:32 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-15 17:54 ` Russell Adams
2020-09-15 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-15 21:12 ` Russell Adams
2020-09-16 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-17 20:47 ` Russell Adams
2020-09-17 21:58 ` Joshua Branson via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-17 23:09 ` Russell Adams
2020-09-18 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18 7:53 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-18 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 20:08 ` jbranso--- via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-18 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-09 20:46 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 21:24 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 21:51 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 8:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-10 12:59 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 13:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-10 13:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 13:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 14:25 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 17:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 18:55 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 16:49 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-08 1:07 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-08 3:24 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-12-08 12:37 ` Russell Adams
2020-12-08 5:13 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-08 16:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-10 0:50 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-10 5:43 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 10:25 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 16:41 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 22:33 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 15:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 16:36 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 19:51 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 3:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-26 15:42 ` Russell Adams
2020-11-26 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-26 16:54 ` Russell Adams
2020-11-26 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27 10:45 ` Russell Adams
2020-11-27 12:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 19:56 ` Russell Adams
2020-11-28 20:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 21:52 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-29 3:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-17 20:59 ` Thomas Ingram
2020-10-29 20:17 ` Trevor Bentley
2020-10-30 8:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-11 21:15 ` Trevor Bentley
2020-11-12 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 20:42 ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 16:32 ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-17 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 17:20 ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 19:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 19:59 ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 20:13 ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 20:16 ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 20:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 20:35 ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 20:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 20:58 ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 21:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 5:43 ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-18 6:09 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-18 8:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-18 9:01 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-18 16:19 ` Russell Adams
2020-11-18 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 15:57 ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-18 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 18:27 ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-19 16:08 ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-22 20:19 ` Deus Max
2020-11-23 3:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-23 16:45 ` Deus Max
2020-11-23 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 16:33 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-11-17 17:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 17:24 ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 20:39 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-17 20:57 ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 21:45 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-18 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-23 18:55 ` Jean Louis
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2020-11-17 20:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 21:47 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-11-19 14:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 14:34 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-19 16:03 ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-19 17:25 ` jao
2020-12-09 19:41 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-12-09 20:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-09 21:04 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-12-11 13:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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