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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: carlos@redhat.com, 43389@debbugs.gnu.org, dj@redhat.com
Subject: bug#43389: 28.0.50; Emacs memory leaks
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 17:33:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8jwj646.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r1osq96c.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 17 Nov 2020 17:45:15 +0200")

* Eli Zaretskii:

>> There is an issue with reusing posix_memalign allocations.  On my system
>> (running Emacs 27.1 as supplied by Fedora 32), I only see such
>> allocations as the backing storage for the glib (sic) slab allocator.
>
> (By "backing storage" you mean malloc calls that request large chunks
> so that malloc obtains the memory from mmap?  Or do you mean something
> else?)

Larger chunks that are split up by the glib allocator.  Whether they are
allocated by mmap is unclear.

> Are the problems with posix_memalign also relevant to calls to
> aligned_alloc?  Emacs calls the latter _a_lot_, see lisp_align_malloc.

Ahh.  I don't see many such calls, even during heavy Gnus usage.  But
opening really large groups triggers such calls.

aligned_alloc is equally problematic.  I don't know if the Emacs
allocation pattern triggers the pathological behavior.

I seem to suffer from the problem as well.  glibc malloc currently maintains
more than 200 MiB of unused memory:

   <size from="1065345" to="153025249" total="226688532" count="20"/>

   <total type="fast" count="0" size="0"/>
   <total type="rest" count="3802" size="238948201"/>

Total RSS is 1 GiB, but even 1 GiB minus 200 MiB would be excessive.

It's possible to generate such statistics using GDB, by calling the
malloc_info function.

My Emacs process does not look like it suffered from the aligned_alloc
issue.  It would leave behind many smaller, unused allocations, not such
large ones.

>> It gets exercised mostly when creating UI elements, as far as I can
>> tell.
>
> I guess your build uses GTK as the toolkit?

I think so:

  GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
  3.24.21, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2020-08-20

>> The other issue we have is that thread counts has exceeded in recent
>> times more than system memory, and glibc basically scales RSS overhead
>> with thread count, not memory.  A use of libgomp suggests that many
>> threads might indeed be spawned.  If their lifetimes overlap, it would
>> not be unheard of to end up with some RSS overhead in the order of
>> peak-usage-per-thread times 8 times the number of hardware threads
>> supported by the system.  Setting MALLOC_ARENA_MAX to a small value
>> counteracts that, so it's very simple to experiment with it if you have
>> a working reproducer.
>
> "Small value" being something like 2?

Yes, that would be a good start.  But my Emacs process isn't affected by
this, so this setting wouldn't help there.

Thanks,
Florian
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-17 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-14  0:43 bug#43389: 28.0.50; Emacs memory leaks Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-14 19:09 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-15  0:32   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-15 17:54     ` Russell Adams
2020-09-15 18:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-15 21:12         ` Russell Adams
2020-09-16 14:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-17 20:47             ` Russell Adams
2020-09-17 21:58               ` Joshua Branson via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-17 23:09                 ` Russell Adams
2020-09-18  6:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18  7:53                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-18  8:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 20:08                     ` jbranso--- via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-18  8:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-09 20:46                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 21:24                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 21:51                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10  3:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10  8:22                         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-10 12:59                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 13:01                             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-10 13:10                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 13:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 13:26                                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 14:25                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 15:36                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 17:44                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 18:55                                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 15:34                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 16:49                                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 17:13                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-08  1:07                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-08  3:24                                           ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-12-08 12:37                                             ` Russell Adams
2020-12-08  5:13                                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-08 16:29                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-10  0:50                                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-10  5:43                                                 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 15:53                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 10:25                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 15:55                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 16:41                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 22:33                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 15:47                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 16:36                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 19:51                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10  3:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-26 15:42               ` Russell Adams
2020-11-26 16:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-26 16:54                   ` Russell Adams
2020-11-26 19:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27 10:45                       ` Russell Adams
2020-11-27 12:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 19:56                           ` Russell Adams
2020-11-28 20:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 21:52                               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-29  3:29                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-17 20:59 ` Thomas Ingram
2020-10-29 20:17 ` Trevor Bentley
2020-10-30  8:00   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-11 21:15     ` Trevor Bentley
2020-11-12 14:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 20:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 20:42           ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 15:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 16:32               ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-17 17:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 17:20                   ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 19:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 19:59                       ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 20:13                         ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 20:16                           ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 20:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 20:35                               ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 20:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 20:58                                   ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 21:10                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18  5:43                                       ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-18  6:09                                         ` Jean Louis
2020-11-18  8:32                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-18  9:01                                             ` Jean Louis
2020-11-18 16:19                                               ` Russell Adams
2020-11-18 17:30                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 15:57                                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-18 18:01                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 18:27                                           ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-19 16:08                                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-22 20:19                                               ` Deus Max
2020-11-23  3:26                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-23 16:45                                                   ` Deus Max
2020-11-23 17:07                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 16:33               ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-11-17 17:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 17:24                   ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 20:39                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-17 20:57                     ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 21:45                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-18 15:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-23 18:55                           ` Jean Louis
     [not found]         ` <87wnyju40z.fsf@mail.trevorbentley.com>
2020-11-17 20:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 21:47 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-11-19 14:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 14:34     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-19 16:03       ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-19 17:25     ` jao
2020-12-09 19:41 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-12-09 20:25   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-09 21:04     ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-12-11 13:55       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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