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[2a01:cb04:b29:8000:1584:8624:b4c6:1618]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n16sm26127719wrj.26.2020.12.30.04.25.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 30 Dec 2020 04:25:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (novim via Users list for the's message of "Wed, 30 Dec 2020 08:37:19 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::32b; envelope-from=kevin.legouguec@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x32b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:126916 Archived-At: novim via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor writes: > AFAIK, it is needed only in terminals, but it has not purpose on > GUI. IIUC (but I might be wrong) it's not so much that it's "needed"; it's that Emacs just cannot distinguish between them, since (some?) terminals translate function keys (e.g. , ) into characters (\r, \t respectively). > I don't think there are many people who, for example, press C-m > instead of RET. I do, FWIW. On AZERTY, 'm' lies comfortably under the right pinky, so C-m is essentially a no-op for my right hand. With rebound to , (two keys away from 'm') requires more wrist movement than (0 key away from 'q'): [CAPS][q][s][d][_f_][g][h][_j_][k][l][m][=C3=B9][*][RETURN] I know I'm probably the odd one out though.