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From: Grzegorz Kowzan <grzegorz@kowzan.eu>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: "Fix" sag scaling for hidpi
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 12:26:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8gtjgoe.fsf@kowzan.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pn1erewq.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Fri, 05 Feb 2021 11:24:05 +0100")

On pią 05 lut 2021 at 11:24, Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 05 Feb 2021 10:02:39 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> said:
>
>     Lars> Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:
>     >> Sorry, I should be more specific. This blurry problem only occurs on
>     >> nsterm with hidpi screens. (That’s because cocoa reports logical pixel
>     >> sizes instead of physical ones.)
>
>     Lars> Should this be fixed (somehow) by changing the cocoa dimensions to be
>     Lars> physical ones, so that Emacs is consistent across architectures?
>
> Thatʼs the wrong direction: pgtk is moving us towards logical pixel
> sizes (gtk already uses them, but there are some rough edges).
>
> Robert

Please see also the extended discussion here:
https://github.com/masm11/emacs/issues/90

I would really like if this were solved at the Emacs level, without
requiring modifications in external packages. As far as I understand, on
Mac OS logical pixels are reported because there is no other option. This
makes pdf-tools, for example, include Mac OS-specific code to not
display blurry PDFs. With pgtk, we get to choose what is reported and
the current choice of logical pixels will require introducing the same
kind of platform-specific code into external packages for pgtk as for
cocoa.

Grzegorz



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-09 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 192+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-04 20:49 "Fix" sag scaling for hidpi Yuan Fu
2021-02-04 22:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-04 23:10   ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-05  9:02     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-05 10:24       ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-06 10:00         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-06 11:15           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-06 11:35             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-06 12:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-07 12:05                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-07 13:14               ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-09 20:01               ` Alan Third
2021-02-10  8:29                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 18:00                 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-10 18:07                   ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-10 18:17                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 18:24                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-10 18:41                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 18:52                         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-11 13:53                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-11 14:30                             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-11 15:11                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-11 22:18                                 ` Cleaning out old X11 toolkits? chad
2021-02-12  7:09                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12  8:44                                     ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-12 11:22                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12  9:30                                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12  9:35                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:00                                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 10:02                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:04                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:18                                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 10:30                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 21:49                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 22:03                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 22:45                                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-13  7:51                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 12:05                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 11:28                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 11:38                                         ` tomas
2021-02-12 13:26                                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 13:57                                           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-15 16:49                                         ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-12 11:47                                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-12 10:00                                   ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 10:14                                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 17:56                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 18:14                                         ` Merging native-comp and pgtk Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 18:36                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 22:29                                             ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-12 23:06                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 23:28                                                 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13  9:39                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 13:27                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:10                                                     ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 14:14                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 14:17                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 15:48                                                     ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 15:58                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14  8:34                                                         ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13  9:20                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 13:07                                                 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 14:16                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 18:01                                                     ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 18:12                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14  7:33                                                 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 15:25                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13  9:26                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-13 12:45                                                 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-16 23:22                                               ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-17 15:32                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 17:32                                                   ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-17 18:09                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 22:20                                                       ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-17 22:52                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 19:20                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 23:04                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13  9:30                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 13:24                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:15                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 21:47                                           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-13  7:39                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 11:16                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 11:28                                               ` Tassilo Horn
2021-02-13 11:57                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 12:17                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 14:53                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 20:30                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 21:03                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:30                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 21:42                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 22:48                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 23:44                                                                 ` Tassilo Horn
2021-02-13 17:38                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 18:36                                                     ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 19:23                                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 19:32                                                         ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 23:18                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-15 14:15                                                             ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-13 13:41                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:18                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 20:32                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14  3:34                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14  4:32                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:58                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 18:34                                                   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14  7:42                                               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-12 18:32                                         ` Cleaning out old X11 toolkits? Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13  9:01                                           ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13  9:44                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 10:29                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14 12:50                                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-14 15:53                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15  9:48                                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-15 15:23                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 16:02                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-15 16:13                                                     ` tomas
2021-02-15 17:03                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 17:20                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 13:04                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-12 17:56                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 18:33                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 20:09                                           ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 20:13                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13  9:02                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13  9:47                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 10:29                                                 ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 13:24                                                   ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 13:53                                                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-13 15:49                                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 19:23                                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14  8:35                                                           ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14  9:33                                                             ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-14 17:16                                                               ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14 17:48                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 18:18                                                                 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-14 19:15                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 22:33                                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-15  8:17                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2021-02-15  9:19                                                                     ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 14:39                                                     ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 14:43                                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 15:50                                                       ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 16:04                                                         ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 21:42                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-14 12:41                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-14 15:51                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 18:18                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-14 19:10                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 11:20                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-12 13:33                                   ` James Cloos
2021-02-12 13:49                                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-10 19:19                         ` "Fix" sag scaling for hidpi Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 14:01                           ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-11 14:59                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 15:16                               ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-10 23:55                   ` Alan Third
2021-02-11  2:01                     ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-11 17:34                       ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-11 20:18                         ` Alan Third
2021-02-12 22:47                           ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 11:13                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 11:17                               ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 11:52                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 12:54                                   ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 13:09                                     ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 15:09                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 16:00                                         ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 23:30                                           ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 20:09                                         ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-13 21:14                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 22:50                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 23:14                                         ` Alan Third
2021-02-14  0:02                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14  2:06                                             ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-14  2:09                                               ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-14 12:19                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14  9:58                                             ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 15:08                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 15:59                                       ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 21:08                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:53                                           ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 21:57                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 22:13                                               ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 18:29                                       ` chad
2021-02-13 19:52                                         ` chad
2021-02-13 20:06                                       ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-13 21:11                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 23:20                                           ` Alan Third
2021-02-09 17:26         ` Grzegorz Kowzan [this message]
2021-02-05 20:29       ` Alan Third
2021-02-07 21:58     ` Alan Third

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