Re: [PATCH] [BUG] Org 9.5: org-goto UI seems broken

[Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>]

Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft@gmail.com> writes:

> My feeling is that the "protection" is good intention but brings more
> harm than good.  I think it's not a good idea to enforce a certain
> window setting.  I guess the knowing user has an easier path to fine
> tune the org-goto user interface when there is less "protection".

I fully agree. That was the motivation behind removing
dislpay-buffer-alist in 399481bad1. It is indeed not a good idea to
overwrite user customisations. They can be deliberate. For example, see
https://orgmode.org/list/87h7ij12t8.fsf@localhost

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:
> However current version of macro does not protect against
> 
>    (setq display-buffer-base-action
> 	 '((display-buffer-reuse-window display-buffer-pop-up-frame)
> 	   (reusable-frames . 0)))
> 
> The example is taken from (info "(elisp) Choosing Window Options"). I 
> have no idea if such customization can be considered as shooting a foot.

display-buffer-base-action, if customised by user, can later be
fine-tuned using display-buffer-alist. If necessary, the user can easily
add org-goto popup as an exception. At least, it is my understanding
from reading docs.

However, pop-up-frames and pop-up-windows are different beasts. They
cannot be fine-tuned by the user to not affect org-goto.  AFAIK, the
only way for the user to overcome the problem would be advicing
org-goto.

> Summary: The org-goto interface today is somewhat broken.  I vote for
> taking the occasion and kicking out the macro org-no-popups entirely.
> This way the org-goto interface is functional AFAICS.  If problems occur
> on that path we'll take care and action.
>
> Do you agree?

My second version of the patch also fixes org-goto interface :)
On the other hand, kicking org-no-popups macro completely may be an
option. pop-up-windows and pop-up-frames are obsolete and should not be
used anymore.

Also, a compromise could be changing org-no-popups to just
(let (pop-up-frames) ...)

WDYT?

Best,
Ihor