From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Defaulting DBus support on macOS to 'off'? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287149 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > Exactly. We can discuss if that should be 'off in configure', or > 'built if found, but off in Emacs' (I=CA=BCd prefer the former). Then it should be made conditional on macOS, and not just NS being enabled. Emacs can also be built on that platform with X11 support, or no toolkit at all. > I dislike programs that log messages to my terminal when there=CA=BCs > nothing really wrong: > > $ src/emacs > dbus[2171]: Dynamic session lookup supported but failed: launchd did > not provide a socket path, verify that > org.freedesktop.dbus-session.plist is loaded! > > although to be fair I think this message comes from libdbus, not from > Emacs. I will see if I can stop that message from showing up, thanks.