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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 977257511ccd387d19b0e22f8da9accc; Tue, 12 Jul 2022 13:29:20 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 12 Jul 2022 04:54:45 -0500") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20407 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:236772 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > I was trying to be polite, sorry. Let me put it a bit more bluntly: > they make Emacs look scruffy and antiquated, and should much sooner be > hidden than actively promoted. [...] > Indeed. We can and should improve that. The last thing by which someone will judge a text editor (of all things) is the selection of games available to play.