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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>,
	57503@debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#57503: 28.1.91; package-selected-packages should not be saved to custom-file
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2022 15:49:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7vsd34m.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ilm0vlk7.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 06 Sep 2022 12:34:00 +0200")

>>>>> On Tue, 06 Sep 2022 12:34:00 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> said:

    Lars> Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:
    >> How do we define 'fresher'?

    Lars> I left that as an exercise for the reader.  🫠  

    >> Anyway, if in doubt, use brute force:
    >> 
    >> (define-multisession-variable package-selected-packages-ms
    >> (package--find-non-dependencies))
    >> 
    >> works fine. We could even condition it on `package-selected-packages'
    >> being non-nil.

    Lars> Hm...  I wonder whether we could just drop the variable altogether.
    Lars> That is, checking for freshness sounds like as much work as
    Lars> recalculating the variable.

On further testing, using package--find-non-dependencies doesnʼt seem
to work 100% correctly: installing a package in emacs-29 and then
going back to emacs-28 has it showing up as 'dependency', not
'installed', in `list-packages'.

    Lars> What are the actual effects of the variable?  That is, what code is it
    Lars> supposed to speed up?

Itʼs supposed to allow people to deactivate packages without
uninstalling them, I think, although Iʼve never used it like that, and
Iʼm not 100% sure it works, since `package--find-non-dependencies'
looks in `package-alist', which I presume contains all the packages
found in .emacs.d/elpa

Thierry, you added the defcustom, is there any light you can shed
here? From my perspective we can stop updating the defcustom, but
there are bound to be people using it for something.

Robert
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-06 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-31 12:43 bug#57503: 28.1.91; package-selected-packages should not be saved to custom-file Joost Kremers
2022-09-02 13:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-02 13:17   ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-02 13:17   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-02 14:33     ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-03  9:52       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-03 10:17         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-09-03 12:25           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-03 15:32         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-04 10:52           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-05  7:37             ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-05 11:16               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-05 11:51                 ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-05 13:14                   ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-05 19:04                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-06  8:18                       ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-06 10:34                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-06 13:49                           ` Robert Pluim [this message]
2022-09-06 14:30                             ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-06 16:45                           ` jakanakaevangeli
2022-09-07  0:09                             ` Stefan Kangas
2022-09-07  5:38                               ` jakanakaevangeli
2022-09-07  9:55                               ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-07 12:39                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-09-03 15:33 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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