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* bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH
@ 2022-09-28  9:56 Trent W. Buck
  2022-09-28 11:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
                   ` (4 more replies)
  0 siblings, 5 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Trent W. Buck @ 2022-09-28  9:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 58137

Just a minor wishlist item.

I wish M-x setenv, when setting a variable that already has a value,
defaulted to that value (instead of the empty string).

This would make it easier to make minor adjustments to a long messy value.
The history is already there (M-p), but it's input history.
If the variable was initially set outside of Emacs, it won't be in history.





In GNU Emacs 28.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.24, cairo version 1.16.0)
 of 2022-08-24, modified by Debian built on hera
Repository revision: d23e4226f712f01bfd3c5eb50a136c3f055d486e
Repository branch: twb
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)

Configured using:
 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
 --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/28.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils
 --with-native-compilation --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
 --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/28.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils
 --with-native-compilation --with-cairo --with-x=yes
 --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
 -ffile-prefix-map=/X/emacs-28bpo11=. -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat
 -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time
 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro'

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES
NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LC_COLLATE: C
  value of $LANG: en_AU.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: ELisp/l

Minor modes in effect:
  paredit-mode: t
  global-magit-file-mode: t
  magit-auto-revert-mode: t
  global-git-commit-mode: t
  async-bytecomp-package-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  windmove-mode: t
  rcirc-track-minor-mode: t
  global-hl-todo-mode: t
  hl-todo-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  icomplete-mode: t
  delete-selection-mode: t
  save-place-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  eldoc-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  buffer-read-only: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

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* bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH
  2022-09-28  9:56 bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH Trent W. Buck
@ 2022-09-28 11:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-09-29  3:26   ` Trent W. Buck
  2022-09-28 12:42 ` Gregory Heytings
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-09-28 11:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Trent W. Buck; +Cc: 58137

"Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com> writes:

> I wish M-x setenv, when setting a variable that already has a value,
> defaulted to that value (instead of the empty string).
>
> This would make it easier to make minor adjustments to a long messy value.
> The history is already there (M-p), but it's input history.
> If the variable was initially set outside of Emacs, it won't be in history.

M-x setenv RET PATH RET M-n

will bring you the current value from the "future history".  This is how
most prompting commands in Emacs work.





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* bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH
  2022-09-28  9:56 bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH Trent W. Buck
  2022-09-28 11:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-09-28 12:42 ` Gregory Heytings
  2022-09-28 12:45 ` Andreas Schwab
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Heytings @ 2022-09-28 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Trent W. Buck; +Cc: 58137


>
> I wish M-x setenv, when setting a variable that already has a value, 
> defaulted to that value (instead of the empty string).
>
> This would make it easier to make minor adjustments to a long messy 
> value. The history is already there (M-p), but it's input history. If 
> the variable was initially set outside of Emacs, it won't be in history.
>

That's what Emacs calls "future history", which you can get with M-x 
setenv RET PATH RET M-n.  It defaults to the value of (getenv "PATH"). 
Is that what you want?





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* bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH
  2022-09-28  9:56 bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH Trent W. Buck
  2022-09-28 11:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-09-28 12:42 ` Gregory Heytings
@ 2022-09-28 12:45 ` Andreas Schwab
  2022-09-28 13:09 ` Robert Pluim
  2022-09-28 13:35 ` Stefan Kangas
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2022-09-28 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Trent W. Buck; +Cc: 58137

On Sep 28 2022, Trent W. Buck wrote:

> I wish M-x setenv, when setting a variable that already has a value,
> defaulted to that value (instead of the empty string).
>
> This would make it easier to make minor adjustments to a long messy value.
> The history is already there (M-p), but it's input history.
> If the variable was initially set outside of Emacs, it won't be in history.

Emacs puts the current value on the history list as the first element
for M-p.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de
GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE  1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7
"And now for something completely different."





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* bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH
  2022-09-28  9:56 bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH Trent W. Buck
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-09-28 12:45 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2022-09-28 13:09 ` Robert Pluim
  2022-09-28 14:28   ` Gregory Heytings
  2022-09-28 13:35 ` Stefan Kangas
  4 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Robert Pluim @ 2022-09-28 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Trent W. Buck; +Cc: 58137

>>>>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 19:56:34 +1000, "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com> said:

    Trent> Just a minor wishlist item.
    Trent> I wish M-x setenv, when setting a variable that already has a value,
    Trent> defaulted to that value (instead of the empty string).

    Trent> This would make it easier to make minor adjustments to a long messy value.
    Trent> The history is already there (M-p), but it's input history.
    Trent> If the variable was initially set outside of Emacs, it won't be in history.

Itʼs in the 'future history', which you get by 'M-n'

Robert
-- 





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* bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH
  2022-09-28  9:56 bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH Trent W. Buck
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-09-28 13:09 ` Robert Pluim
@ 2022-09-28 13:35 ` Stefan Kangas
  4 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2022-09-28 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Trent W. Buck, 58137

tags 58137 + moreinfo
thanks

"Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com> writes:

> I wish M-x setenv, when setting a variable that already has a value,
> defaulted to that value (instead of the empty string).
>
> This would make it easier to make minor adjustments to a long messy value.
> The history is already there (M-p), but it's input history.

AFAICT, M-p already brings in the previous value of the variable, if it
was set:

     (let* ((var (read-envvar-name "Set environment variable: " nil))
	    (value (getenv var)))
       (when value
	 (add-to-history 'setenv-history value))
       ;; Here finally we specify the args to give call setenv with.
       (list var
	     (read-from-minibuffer (format "Set %s to value: " var)
				   nil nil nil 'setenv-history
				   value)
	     t))))

> If the variable was initially set outside of Emacs, it won't be in history.

Do you have a recipe to reproduce this?

What is the value of (getenv "FOO") before you run `M-x setenv'?





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* bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH
  2022-09-28 13:09 ` Robert Pluim
@ 2022-09-28 14:28   ` Gregory Heytings
  2022-09-28 14:56     ` Robert Pluim
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Heytings @ 2022-09-28 14:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Robert Pluim; +Cc: Trent W. Buck, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 58137

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>
> Itʼs in the 'future history', which you get by 'M-n'
>

The nice thing with the multiple hours delays introduced by lists.gnu.org 
is that people get the same advice multiple times. 😉

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* bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH
  2022-09-28 14:28   ` Gregory Heytings
@ 2022-09-28 14:56     ` Robert Pluim
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Robert Pluim @ 2022-09-28 14:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gregory Heytings; +Cc: Trent W. Buck, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 58137

>>>>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 14:28:01 +0000, Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org> said:

    >> 
    >> Itʼs in the 'future history', which you get by 'M-n'
    >> 

    Gregory> The nice thing with the multiple hours delays introduced by
    Gregory> lists.gnu.org is that people get the same advice multiple times. 😉

Good thing that the advice was the same all three times 😀

Robert
-- 





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* bug#58137: 28.1; M-x setenv RET PATH RET should default to the current $PATH
  2022-09-28 11:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-09-29  3:26   ` Trent W. Buck
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Trent W. Buck @ 2022-09-29  3:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 58137-done

On Wed 28 Sep 2022 13:14:10 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > I wish M-x setenv, when setting a variable that already has a value,
> > defaulted to that value (instead of the empty string).
> >
> > This would make it easier to make minor adjustments to a long messy value.
> > The history is already there (M-p), but it's input history.
> > If the variable was initially set outside of Emacs, it won't be in history.
> 
> M-x setenv RET PATH RET M-n
> 
> will bring you the current value from the "future history".  This is how
> most prompting commands in Emacs work.

I confirm that this works -- thanks.

I can't believe I never discovered this before!
If I had known about this 20 years ago I might not have bothered with ido :-P





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