From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs for early Macs? (was: Re: Cannot start Emacs from Finder on macOS Ventura) [screenshot] Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:57:19 +0100 Message-ID: <87o7r6aw8w.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87a62rw5ar.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6085"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:m18zPAfMvenifNBDUb9c8kujcOU= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 13 01:22:00 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pG7pY-000103-9O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2023 01:22:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pG7oP-0006IA-65; Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:20:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pFMce-0007xJ-8z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2023 16:57:33 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pFMcc-0003ZO-E8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2023 16:57:32 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pFMcZ-0009uN-7f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:57:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:20:47 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142220 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: >> https://dataswamp.org/~incal/pimgs/dc.png > > Do you wish to say that is nice and fancy speed proprietary > game, you promote here, which we can't even play? Jean, you do me an injustice! Feel free to play it here [1], as you see I have even prepared zsh scripts for you to facilitate even more for you to play it ... And not just that, here is another screenshot [2] showing a bunch of games - back then, you could sure fit a lot of games on a 1.44M floppy. Those games are absolutely not comparable to Dark Castle or Beyond Dark Castle tho and this also show in size - for example, Dark Castle (with Finder, the OS) need a whole 800K floppy to run! Only a small warning, reduce volume before you start it as it is set hy by default! That's partly what those scripts do but that won't work for you without this file [3] so you have to do it manually ... if you can manage ;) The scripts should work fine anyway to just run the emulator. But, how did you program for the early Macs (e.g., Mac Plus which is emulated here) without Emacs? You'd use some other editor I take it, anyone has details on that? [1] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emu/mac/ [2] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emu/mac/img/games.png [3] https://dataswamp.org/~incal/conf/.zsh/volume -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal