From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Jack Kamm <jackkamm@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr
Subject: Re: [RFC] ox-icalendar: Unscheduled tasks & repeating tasks
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 18:46:45 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7nql2sq.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fs92bdvf.fsf@gmail.com>
Jack Kamm <jackkamm@gmail.com> writes:
> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> Another scenario we may need to consider is when schedule has a repeater
>> while deadline does not, and vice versa. The former scenario is probably
>> valid - a VTODO with limited number of occurrences.
>
> That is an interesting idea; and we can use the UNTIL or COUNT keywords
> in RRULE to implement it.
>
> However, it doesn't seem completely faithful to the way the TODO ends up
> in the Org Agenda (or does Org have some option to use DEADLINE to bound
> a repeating SCHEDULED in this way?)
DUE in iCalendar and DEADLINE in Org are not exactly the same. So, of
course, there is a room for ambiguity.
The question is: does iCalendar allow something like
DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:19970105T083000
RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY
DUE;TZID=America/New_York:20070105T083000
and repeats past DUE?
If not, we have to choose when exporting from Org source - either to
keep DUE or not.
> I think the most faithful way to represent different SCHEDULED and
> DEADLINE repeaters is to export 2 separate VTODOs, each with different
> RRULE. Then the exported iCalendar will look just like the Org
> Agenda. It is also in line with how ox-icalendar exports multiple
> timestamps to separate VEVENTs.
If we want to leave as many options as possible to the users, we can (1)
Implement ICALENAR_DUE property that will set DUE explicitly on export;
(2) ICALENDAR_DUE may allow special values that will indicate how to
treat Org DEADLINEs - make them into DUE, use Org DEADLINE as a
bound for SCHEDULED repeater, or ignore DEADLINE completely.
> That said, I am not really happy with this solution either. The fact
> that ox-icalendar can create multiple VEVENT per entry already creates
> headaches for any setup doing bidirectional sync between Org and
> iCalendar, such as with org-caldav, ical2org.awk, or ical2orgpy. And I
> am hesitant to make this problem worse, by making it happen for VTODO as
> well.
Is there any reason for this? May we instead export to a single VEVENT
with appropriate RDATE list?
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-14 18:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-26 18:56 [RFC] ox-icalendar: Unscheduled tasks & repeating tasks Jack Kamm
2023-03-27 11:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-31 5:55 ` Jack Kamm
2023-03-31 13:07 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-31 15:50 ` Jack Kamm
2023-03-31 17:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-03-31 22:20 ` Jack Kamm
2023-04-01 8:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-02 0:47 ` Jack Kamm
2023-04-02 8:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-02 15:34 ` Jack Kamm
2023-04-02 16:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-14 16:57 ` Jack Kamm
2023-04-14 18:46 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-04-15 3:13 ` Jack Kamm
2023-04-15 9:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-04-16 17:19 ` Jack Kamm
2023-06-11 15:35 ` [PATCH] " Jack Kamm
2023-06-12 10:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-06-17 17:32 ` Jack Kamm
2023-06-18 11:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
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